From audiotech50 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 23:19:29 2009 From: audiotech50 at gmail.com (Michael Rudas) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:19:29 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Linux-powered pico DLP Message-ID: Here's an interesting new iteration of TI's micro-mirror/DLP technology: "Look 'Ma! A Drive-In Theatre for Ants!" The "BeagleBoard" seems interesting in and of itself... ~~ Michael Rudas My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com My blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com From c.e.tower at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 15:36:08 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:36:08 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] CF Card Conundrum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495FCC38.7060606@gmail.com> A friend gave me an old HP Photosmart 315 digital camera. It has a 128MB Sandisk CF card (or is it called a disk?) in it. I can connect it to my PC and mount it the same way I would a flash drive, but I can't see all the files that are stored on it. The df command shows it's capacity as three or four megabytes less than the 128 it is when I mount it. fdisk -l shows only one partition on it, formatted as FAT16. I know there are other photos on it because I can view a dozen of them through the camera's menu system on its LCD screen. I would like to save a couple of them and then reformat the card, to see if I can eliminate this problem, but I can't access the dozen files from my PC. I did find a note on the web that the software that comes with Windows XP and (Vista or 2000) cannot access any CF cards in this camera greater than 32MB in capacity without using a CF card reader, but I don't have one to try and I don't care to buy one if I can eliminate the problem. 1) Does anyone have any other suggestions I can try to access and copy these photos to my PC? 2) Does anyone who is coming to next week's meeting have a CF card reader they could bring that I could use to read the card? Thank you for any help you folks can provide me. Chick From marr at copper.net Sat Jan 3 16:23:00 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:23:00 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] CF Card Conundrum In-Reply-To: <495FCC38.7060606@gmail.com> References: <495FCC38.7060606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901031623.01100.marr@copper.net> On Saturday 03 January 2009 3:36:08pm Chick Tower wrote: > A friend gave me an old HP Photosmart 315 digital camera. It has a > 128MB Sandisk CF card (or is it called a disk?) in it. I can connect it > to my PC and mount it the same way I would a flash drive, but I can't > see all the files that are stored on it. The df command shows it's > capacity as three or four megabytes less than the 128 it is when I mount > it. fdisk -l shows only one partition on it, formatted as FAT16. I > know there are other photos on it because I can view a dozen of them > through the camera's menu system on its LCD screen. I would like to > save a couple of them and then reformat the card, to see if I can > eliminate this problem, but I can't access the dozen files from my PC. > I did find a note on the web that the software that comes with Windows > XP and (Vista or 2000) cannot access any CF cards in this camera greater > than 32MB in capacity without using a CF card reader, but I don't have > one to try and I don't care to buy one if I can eliminate the problem. > > 1) Does anyone have any other suggestions I can try to access and copy > these photos to my PC? Odd. That model supports "USB Mass Storage" mode, so if you can mount the card while it's in the camera, I cannot quite understand why all the photo files aren't appearing. How are you checking for the files on the card? Are you sure there aren't any hidden directories? If 'ls -laR /mnt' doesn't show everything on the mounted device, then I'm mystified. If all else fails (before you get a chance to try it with a USB card reader, that is), you might want to try accessing the camera with 'gphoto2': http://www.gphoto.org In a quick web search, I saw some inconsistent information about whether that particular model is supported by 'gphoto2', but it might be worth a try. Having said that, I suspect the "external USB CF card reader" path would be faster/easier and maybe more likely to succeed. FWIW, I have a Kodak DC260 camera that I used to use with a neat photo viewer/control application that I wrote (and later used what I learned to provide a couple of fixes/updates to the 'gphoto2' project), but I found that it was just easier to pull the CF card (yes, I also call it a 'card' -- as far as I'm concerned, if it doesn't spin, it's not a "disk"/"disc" :^} ) and plug it into a USB card reader. These days, my main PC has a neat multi-format internal (connected to USB header on motherboard) card reader that nicely fits where a floppy diskette drive would normally go. It was $7.99 at NewEgg (item #N82E16820609198) back in Feb 2008 and it works like a charm under Slackware and even has a USB socket for plugging in a USB flash RAM drive. Good luck and holler if you have any questions.... Bill Marr From clay at lazarusid.com Sat Jan 3 21:37:46 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:37:46 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Linux-powered pico DLP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496020FA.8000101@lazarusid.com> Michael Rudas wrote: > Here's an interesting new iteration of TI's micro-mirror/DLP technology: > "Look 'Ma! A Drive-In Theatre for Ants!" > That's a very interesting device. I can see a lot of uses for it. Perfect, for instance, for the quick presentation or training session for a small group. I could have used it a couple weeks ago during a client meeting. Clay -- Knock Down Desk: From unpacking to fully assembled in 10 minutes http://www.knockdowndesk.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clay.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090103/4275ee9e/attachment.vcf From c.e.tower at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 07:12:26 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:12:26 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] CF Card Conundrum In-Reply-To: <200901031623.01100.marr@copper.net> References: <495FCC38.7060606@gmail.com> <200901031623.01100.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: <4960A7AA.9090904@gmail.com> Well, I was able to copy my photos from the camera. I found a Win98 driver for the HP camera (actually, for an Iomega SCSI-to-USB cable driver) and installed it. It worked, and the remaining photos were right where the others had been. I rebooted into Linux and looked again, just to see if the files were now visible, but they're not. Now I'll reformat the CF card in the camera and verify that I can see new photos. Anyway, thanks for the response, and nobody needs to bring a card reader to the meeting. Chick Marr wrote: > Odd. That model supports "USB Mass Storage" mode, so if you can mount the card > while it's in the camera, I cannot quite understand why all the photo files > aren't appearing. From c.e.tower at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 23:39:44 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:39:44 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Presentation, January 8th In-Reply-To: <200901031623.01100.marr@copper.net> References: <495FCC38.7060606@gmail.com> <200901031623.01100.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: <49643210.9070001@gmail.com> Someone mentioned weeks ago that he was planning a presentation for this week's meeting, but I can't confirm that right now. Perhaps if that person would reply to my e-mail from last week, or write me, we'll know if there will be a presentation. Chick From eduardo at cesconetto.com Thu Jan 8 16:32:00 2009 From: eduardo at cesconetto.com (Eduardo Cesconetto) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:32:00 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Presentation, January 8th In-Reply-To: <49643210.9070001@gmail.com> References: <495FCC38.7060606@gmail.com> <200901031623.01100.marr@copper.net> <49643210.9070001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey guys and gals, is thete a meeting today? If yes, what time? Still @ the library? Eduardo Cesconetto | eduardo at cesconetto.com On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > Someone mentioned weeks ago that he was planning a presentation for > this > week's meeting, but I can't confirm that right now. Perhaps if that > person would reply to my e-mail from last week, or write me, we'll > know > if there will be a presentation. > > Chick > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jan 9 14:42:40 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Part Room Message-ID: I just made the reservation for the Penguicon party room. According to the hotel I'm allowed to have at least five people in there. Anybody interested, drop me a note. Just remember that it will be full of drunks at least until 2:30am. I'm claiming a bed spot though. Clay From dbosman at msu.edu Mon Jan 12 11:10:19 2009 From: dbosman at msu.edu (Don Bosman) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:10:19 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] If you were looking for a router tomorrow or later this year, what would you be looking at? Message-ID: <496B6B6B.50206@msu.edu> Hello from another lurker. While the old blue Linksys wireless routers running third party software have been great and still work well, what current or near current product would you be looking for today or sometime this year? I'm prepared to run two routers. One wired and one wireless running as just an access point. Two story house with basement, about 700 square feet per floor. No easy wire access from basement to second floor. Currently we have DLS via PPOE. I need wireless and wired ports (basement workshop/sandbox is going to be on gig switch shortly), support for my sons (plural) X-Box 360, Wii, Sony PSP, Eee PC running Linux, Linux boxes and Windows boxes. Except for being the smallest house in a nice neighborhood, pretty much a standard house with 4th, 8th and 11th grade kids. Built in support for a NAS would be nice. Support for my kids friends to have short term wireless access for their PSPs and notebooks would be good. I'm thinking monthly pass phrase changes, but something simpler and at least semi automatic would be desirable. Low power consumption is a must, and above all - reliability. I'm thinking SD card for boot if I assemble something. And I'd like to keep the out of pocket around $200.00. A lot less would be nice. I do have three kids to feed. One example - using current products - is a wired Linksys Cable/DSL router, one Linksys wireless running Tomato for high security access for family and another Linksys wireless box running nearly wide open. From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jan 12 14:03:39 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:03:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops Message-ID: My laptop went up in smoke last week with a bad hard disk controller. I was going to do without for a while, then I found ThinkPad T43 notebooks at Buy.com. It's not the latest and greatest machine, but it has a reputation for working well with Linux, and at $300 it was the best deal out there. Anybody looking for a laptop, you might want to pick one up. http://tinyurl.com/5mu3v4 Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. It's delaying my purchase of riding pants for my motorcycle, but probably worth it. Clay From george at idealso.com Mon Jan 12 14:23:50 2009 From: george at idealso.com (Michael George) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:23:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <521d1d3c5aaa09fd09322cbe577d44e1.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> On Mon, January 12, 2009 2:03 pm, Clay Dowling wrote: > My laptop went up in smoke last week with a bad hard disk controller. I > was going to do without for a while, then I found ThinkPad T43 notebooks > at Buy.com. It's not the latest and greatest machine, but it has a > reputation for working well with Linux, and at $300 it was the best deal > out there. > > Anybody looking for a laptop, you might want to pick one up. > http://tinyurl.com/5mu3v4 > > Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. It's delaying my > purchase of riding pants for my motorcycle, but probably worth it. I was surprised at how reasonable a Linux laptop could be from Dell: http://tinyurl.com/8fbpqj It's quite a bit more than Clay's link, but it's pretty well-equipped, too. -Michael George From george at idealso.com Mon Jan 12 14:28:28 2009 From: george at idealso.com (Michael George) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:28:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <705bb6343c7dbad77200f754daa22497.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> On Mon, January 12, 2009 2:03 pm, Clay Dowling wrote: > My laptop went up in smoke last week with a bad hard disk controller. I > was going to do without for a while, then I found ThinkPad T43 notebooks > at Buy.com. It's not the latest and greatest machine, but it has a > reputation for working well with Linux, and at $300 it was the best deal > out there. > > Anybody looking for a laptop, you might want to pick one up. > http://tinyurl.com/5mu3v4 > > Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. It's delaying my > purchase of riding pants for my motorcycle, but probably worth it. I was surprised how economical a Linux laptop from Dell could be: http://tinyurl.com/8fbpqj Not quite as low-priced as Clay's suggestion, but if you want one with a bit more punch and guaranteed to work with Linux, this is a way to go, too. -Michael George From george at idealso.com Mon Jan 12 14:44:08 2009 From: george at idealso.com (Michael George) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:44:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops In-Reply-To: <705bb6343c7dbad77200f754daa22497.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> References: <705bb6343c7dbad77200f754daa22497.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> Message-ID: <63d1ee554a40609e41b2effe71c5dd2a.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> Oops, sorry for the double-post. I got too quick on a Firefox button on the first one and thought I'd jimmied it up so I sent another... On Mon, January 12, 2009 2:28 pm, Michael George wrote: > On Mon, January 12, 2009 2:03 pm, Clay Dowling wrote: >> My laptop went up in smoke last week with a bad hard disk controller. I >> was going to do without for a while, then I found ThinkPad T43 notebooks >> at Buy.com. It's not the latest and greatest machine, but it has a >> reputation for working well with Linux, and at $300 it was the best deal >> out there. >> >> Anybody looking for a laptop, you might want to pick one up. >> http://tinyurl.com/5mu3v4 >> >> Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. It's delaying my >> purchase of riding pants for my motorcycle, but probably worth it. > > I was surprised how economical a Linux laptop from Dell could be: > http://tinyurl.com/8fbpqj > > Not quite as low-priced as Clay's suggestion, but if you want one with a > bit more punch and guaranteed to work with Linux, this is a way to go, > too. > > -Michael George > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > -Michael George From andres at msu.edu Mon Jan 12 15:04:06 2009 From: andres at msu.edu (STeve Andre') Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:04:06 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops In-Reply-To: <705bb6343c7dbad77200f754daa22497.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> References: <705bb6343c7dbad77200f754daa22497.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> Message-ID: <200901121504.06891.andres@msu.edu> On Monday 12 January 2009 14:28:28 Michael George wrote: > On Mon, January 12, 2009 2:03 pm, Clay Dowling wrote: > > My laptop went up in smoke last week with a bad hard disk controller. I > > was going to do without for a while, then I found ThinkPad T43 notebooks > > at Buy.com. It's not the latest and greatest machine, but it has a > > reputation for working well with Linux, and at $300 it was the best deal > > out there. > > > > Anybody looking for a laptop, you might want to pick one up. > > http://tinyurl.com/5mu3v4 > > > > Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. It's delaying my > > purchase of riding pants for my motorcycle, but probably worth it. > > I was surprised how economical a Linux laptop from Dell could be: > http://tinyurl.com/8fbpqj > > Not quite as low-priced as Clay's suggestion, but if you want one with a > bit more punch and guaranteed to work with Linux, this is a way to go, > too. Just remember there is a world of difference between a ThinkPad and a Dell in terms of quality. I'd take the $300 used thinkpad any day. I've dealt with too many Dell, Toshiba, Sony and HP laptops that have had various stupid problems, wern't built right, or didn't have spare parts for them. I admit that I am a ThinkPad snob, but rarely have they let me down. Lenovo has kept the quality up since they acquired the thinkpad rights. I'm using a W500 now and its great. Anyway, keep in mind the availability of parts down the road, and turnaround time for repairs when looking at new laptops. --STeve Andre' From c.e.tower at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 15:34:56 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:34:56 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496BA970.1020608@gmail.com> Why is it taking so long for delivery, Clay? Chick Clay Dowling wrote: > Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jan 12 15:36:59 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:36:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Good deal on laptops In-Reply-To: <496BA970.1020608@gmail.com> References: <496BA970.1020608@gmail.com> Message-ID: Because I opted for the free delivery option, which runs 7 to 9 days. And it takes 2 to 3 days to get it ready for shipping. Which actually looks like I'll probably have it sometime next week, although probably not before the innauguration. Clay On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Chick Tower wrote: > Why is it taking so long for delivery, Clay? > > Chick > > > Clay Dowling wrote: >> Mine is on the way, hope to have it by February. > From rexykik at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 15:05:19 2009 From: rexykik at gmail.com (Karl Schuttler) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:05:19 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Ports > 65535 with netcat Message-ID: <984d708a0901131205j75566872t263b763622a1188e@mail.gmail.com> When you specify a port above 65535 in netcat, such as 70000, it does -65536 and uses that port number (4464 in 70000's case i think). Can anyone come up with a good reason _why_ netcat does this, code wise? What makes it do this? From andres at msu.edu Tue Jan 13 15:12:09 2009 From: andres at msu.edu (STeve Andre') Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:12:09 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Ports > 65535 with netcat In-Reply-To: <984d708a0901131205j75566872t263b763622a1188e@mail.gmail.com> References: <984d708a0901131205j75566872t263b763622a1188e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901131512.09725.andres@msu.edu> On Tuesday 13 January 2009 15:05:19 Karl Schuttler wrote: > When you specify a port above 65535 in netcat, such as 70000, it does > -65536 and uses that port number (4464 in 70000's > case i think). Can anyone come up with a good reason _why_ netcat does > this, code wise? What makes it do this? > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user It's modulo 16 bit-- 70000 minus 4464 is 65535. Seems silly to me to do this and not complain, as port 70000 does not exist. --STeve Andre' From clay at lazarusid.com Wed Jan 14 13:38:49 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:38:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Cool Drupal Module Message-ID: Just found the Pathauto module for Drupal. I love this. Instead of node numbers I get, for free, natural looking URLs for all of my pages. Absolutely love it. Organic Groups looks fun too. I have it installed on a test server, and it looks a bit like social networking software. Clay From alpuzz at msu.edu Wed Jan 14 13:45:43 2009 From: alpuzz at msu.edu (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:45:43 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Getting Involved, and is there a Meeting Tomorrow? Message-ID: Hello, Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a few questions as well. I work at MSU, as the IT person at the Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities. I moved to the Lansing area about a year and a half ago to take my current position, and have been sort of lurking on this list since then, with the intent of becoming more involved with the group at some point. I guess the best way to start would be by attending some meetings. According to your site, there should be a meeting tomorrow at the library of Michigan. Is that meeting still on and if so, how long do meetings typically last? I don't drive, so will probably set up rides with CATA. Would a 6:00 PM arrival and an 8:00 PM departure from the library make sense? Thanks, Al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090114/36d7202b/attachment.html From clay at lazarusid.com Wed Jan 14 14:00:41 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:00:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Getting Involved, and is there a Meeting Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just a quick correct, that we meet at the downtown branch of the Capital Area District Library. It's on Grand, just south of the Cooley Law Library. Clay On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hello, > > Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a few questions as well. > > > I work at MSU, as the IT person at the Resource Center for Persons with > Disabilities. I moved to the Lansing area about a year and a half ago > to take my current position, and have been sort of lurking on this list > since then, with the intent of becoming more involved with the group at > some point. I guess the best way to start would be by attending some > meetings. According to your site, there should be a meeting tomorrow at > the library of Michigan. Is that meeting still on and if so, how long > do meetings typically last? I don't drive, so will probably set up > rides with CATA. Would a 6:00 PM arrival and an 8:00 PM departure from > the library make sense? > > Thanks, > > Al > > From c.e.tower at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 20:31:34 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:31:34 -0600 Subject: [GLLUG] Getting Involved, and is there a Meeting Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496E91F6.5030807@gmail.com> As Clay said, the meetings are at the Lansing public library in the third-floor conference room. You can find out about the library at http://www.cadl.org. While the meetings rarely start at 6:00 p.m., that's the official start time as far as I know. 6:30 p.m. would work for an arrival time, too. The meetings usually last until around 8:45 p.m., but you're welcome to leave whenever you have to. Chick Al Puzzuoli wrote: > According to your site, there should be a meeting tomorrow at the > library of Michigan. Is that meeting still on and if so, how long do > meetings typically last? I don't drive, so will probably set up > rides with CATA. Would a 6:00 PM arrival and an 8:00 PM departure > from the library make sense? > > Thanks, > > Al From charles at bityard.net Thu Jan 15 00:58:13 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:58:13 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] [Fwd: [penguicon-general] Anything but Ethernet comes to Penguicon] Message-ID: <496ED075.1090106@bityard.net> I know a few people on the list who could successfully compete in this. ;) Charles -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [penguicon-general] Anything but Ethernet comes to Penguicon Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:00:55 -0500 (EST) From: Nate B Reply-To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org, myself at telcodata.us To: penguicon-general at penguicon.org Hello, list denizens! My name is Nate, but I go by the handle "Myself" as often as not, and that's how you'll find me mentioned in most online fora. (It frustrates search engines.) I've attended Penguicon for the last two years, so I may have met many of you. I'm the co-originator and judge of a contest called Anything but Ethernet, which has taken place exclusively at Notacon for the last five years. There's been a feeling that Penguicon would also be a fine environment for AbE, so the decision has been made to branch it off and bring it here. The goal of Anything but Ethernet is to build something that moves data as ridiculously as possible. In the past, we've seen "IP over voice", ham radio TNCs, servo-driven semaphores, laser modems, RFID tags as datagram bearers, and a T1 circuit running on barbed wire. The more hops an entry has, the more points it scores! Detailed info is here: http://wiki.notacon.org/AnythingButEthernet And yes, the rules are on a wiki. That's in keeping with the anything-goes spirit of the contest. How flexible they are depends on how I feel when I get the edit-notification email! I can't wait to see what you create. Some background on Notacon: Notacon takes place every spring in Cleveland, Ohio. Imagine Penguicon minus the sci-fi, with more hackers, and you might be on the right track. We try to get "off the beaten path", with interests in music, art, politics, security, and how all those things interact with technology. There's also a strong DIY bent, as evidenced in part by AbE! Reading over the archives at Notacon.org will give you a sense of where we've been, and since the CFP is open until the end of the month, you can help shape where we're going! For the last two years, Notacon has paired with Blockparty, a North American demoparty. One admission gets you into both events. If you're not familiar with the demoscene, head over to scene.org or pouet.net and check out some of the stuff people create. Briefly, a demo is a program whose output is approximately a music video, rendered in realtime. As hardware gets more capable, this is less of a big deal, so additional constraints are imposed. How much coolness can you squeeze out of a 64k executable? 4k? 256 bytes? Demoparties are social gatherings and competitions, with booze and boasting and prizes. Blockparty also runs workshops and talks within Notacon's schedule. Since Notacon takes place 2 weeks before Penguicon this year, you can certainly do both. I haven't yet decided whether AbE entries at Notacon will compete for the same prizes as AbE entries at Penguicon -- that'll depend in part on what prize sponsorship we get this year! Looking forward to it, -Myself- _______________________________________________ penguicon-general mailing list penguicon-general at penguicon.org http://penguicon.org/mailman/listinfo/penguicon-general -- http://bityard.net From trevor.jagoda at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 08:04:11 2009 From: trevor.jagoda at gmail.com (Trevor Jagoda) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:04:11 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] PenguiCon Message-ID: <5a2d44a90901150504m369da187tb0f5a3e2565edff3@mail.gmail.com> Hello! I am Trevor Jagoda, the head of PenguiCon 7.0's Tech Track. Why am I harassing your mailing lists, you say? It's quite simple, I need more presentations and panels! So, if any of you out there would like to present your hobbies, interests, knowledge(s), or frighteningly-hacked-together homebrew contraptions at PenguiCon, e-mail me! Send a panel/talk/event/activity title to "trevor.jagoda at gmail.com", along with a small descriptive blurb, and a list of the participants (list of participants is not needed if you are doing a solo-talk), and we'll get you scheduled into the fun! Separately, I know last year's key signing party was a pretty huge hit. If the GLLUG-affiliated computer lounge administrators are on this list, are you guys all set to go at that again this year? I will order the appropriate ribbons if so. Thanks, Trevor Jagoda Tech Track Head PenguiCon 7.0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090115/fe356a1a/attachment.html From mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us Fri Jan 16 13:09:12 2009 From: mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us (Mike Rambo) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:09:12 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] how to remove Message-ID: <20090116130912.344c7a83@mrambo.imcdomain.local> I had a problem with a raid 5 array. When I got it back up I found everything looks ok except one directory that now appears as follows. ?r---w-rwx 33444 3714798861 2557849272 2593351921 2017-08-26 12:38 mdk Notice the ? instead of the usual d at the far left plus the weird large numbers elsewhere. This directory contained at least three and probably four CD iso's which probably accounts for the size. No idea about the bizarre user/group stuff aside from general corruption. I'm sure the best thing will be to move the data elsewhere and rebuild the array but before doing that I'm curious how something like this might be fixed or if it even can. All the other files and directories are ok (or at least appear to be) and the array can be otherwise read and written to without difficulty. I can't even delete this item. -- Mike Rambo Life takes a bit of time and a lot of relationship. -papa From mortel at cyber-nos.com Fri Jan 16 14:31:50 2009 From: mortel at cyber-nos.com (Stanley C. Mortel) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:31:50 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] how to remove In-Reply-To: <20090116130912.344c7a83@mrambo.imcdomain.local> References: <20090116130912.344c7a83@mrambo.imcdomain.local> Message-ID: <4970E0A6.6090807@cyber-nos.com> Mike, Have you tried badblocks and fsck? Stan Mike Rambo wrote: > I had a problem with a raid 5 array. When I got it back up I found > everything looks ok except one directory that now appears as follows. > > ?r---w-rwx 33444 3714798861 2557849272 2593351921 2017-08-26 12:38 mdk > > Notice the ? instead of the usual d at the far left plus the weird > large numbers elsewhere. This directory contained at least three and > probably four CD iso's which probably accounts for the size. No idea > about the bizarre user/group stuff aside from general corruption. > > I'm sure the best thing will be to move the data elsewhere and rebuild > the array but before doing that I'm curious how something like this > might be fixed or if it even can. All the other files and directories > are ok (or at least appear to be) and the array can be otherwise read > and written to without difficulty. > > I can't even delete this item. > > > From mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us Fri Jan 16 15:20:07 2009 From: mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us (Mike Rambo) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:20:07 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] how to remove In-Reply-To: <4970E0A6.6090807@cyber-nos.com> References: <20090116130912.344c7a83@mrambo.imcdomain.local> <4970E0A6.6090807@cyber-nos.com> Message-ID: <20090116152007.2b647737@mrambo.imcdomain.local> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:31:50 -0500 "Stanley C. Mortel" wrote: > Mike, > > Have you tried badblocks and fsck? > fsck was the first thing I did. It doesn't see anything wrong with the file system. Guess whatever is the cause is not something that offends fsck. I did not try bad blocks though. I thought that was for marking bad blocks on the disk so they were not used at all. Not so? All I really need to do is delete the now extraneous entry although if it were it recoverable I think it would be an interesting learning exercise. > Stan > > Mike Rambo wrote: > > I had a problem with a raid 5 array. When I got it back up I found > > everything looks ok except one directory that now appears as > > follows. > > > > ?r---w-rwx 33444 3714798861 2557849272 2593351921 2017-08-26 12:38 > > mdk > > > > Notice the ? instead of the usual d at the far left plus the weird > > > > I can't even delete this item. > > > > > > -- Mike Rambo Life takes a bit of time and a lot of relationship. -papa From tigner at msu.edu Fri Jan 16 16:28:57 2009 From: tigner at msu.edu (tigner) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:28:57 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] how to remove In-Reply-To: <20090116152007.2b647737@mrambo.imcdomain.local> References: <20090116130912.344c7a83@mrambo.imcdomain.local> <4970E0A6.6090807@cyber-nos.com> <20090116152007.2b647737@mrambo.imcdomain.local> Message-ID: <1232141337.44468.48.camel@eshop1.pa.msu.edu> It is very important IMHO to perform a low level test of the disk anytime possible corruption occurs. A sector or group of sectors can become marginal. Manufacturers of disk drives provide free low level testing software. I would run the low level test before I tried to fsck the drive, it could mask the problem -or- make it worse. I recommend turning on S.M.A.R.T on your drives and running S.M.A.R.T reporting software on your system. Many times S.M.A.R.T testing or low level testing will let you know if the drive is failing or about to fail and if this is the case, then you are wasting your time running high level OS file recovery routines suck as fsck, chkdsk, drvchk etc. Know your drive is good before you mess with the data. Barry On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:20 -0500, Mike Rambo wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:31:50 -0500 > "Stanley C. Mortel" wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > Have you tried badblocks and fsck? > > > > fsck was the first thing I did. It doesn't see anything wrong with the > file system. Guess whatever is the cause is not something that offends > fsck. I did not try bad blocks though. I thought that was for marking > bad blocks on the disk so they were not used at all. Not so? > > All I really need to do is delete the now extraneous entry although if it > were it recoverable I think it would be an interesting learning exercise. > > > > Stan > > > > Mike Rambo wrote: > > > I had a problem with a raid 5 array. When I got it back up I found > > > everything looks ok except one directory that now appears as > > > follows. > > > > > > ?r---w-rwx 33444 3714798861 2557849272 2593351921 2017-08-26 12:38 > > > mdk > > > > > > Notice the ? instead of the usual d at the far left plus the weird > > > > > > > > > I can't even delete this item. > > > > > > > > > > > Barry A. Tigner Electronics Shop manager Physics and Astronomy department Michigan State University tigner at msu.edu 517-884-5538 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090116/3a4b837e/attachment.html From mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us Fri Jan 16 21:39:41 2009 From: mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us (Mike Rambo) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:39:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] how to remove In-Reply-To: <2817e8c61c17a52d983aca4d463edc50.squirrel@mail.idealso.com> Message-ID: <15491251.9291232159981511.JavaMail.root@pandora.lsd.k12.mi.us> ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael George To: Mike Rambo Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:37:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [GLLUG] how to remove are the files that used to be under this directory in lost+found? I would think that if the FS didn't see this as a directory, there would be some dangling i-nodes that would have been put in lost+found. What does the system tell you when you try to remove the file with "rm mdk"? I didn't think to check lost+found. I'll do that when I get back to work on Tuesday. Attempts to remove, chmod, chown or anything else I tried are all met with an access denied message (even when done as root user). -- Mike On Fri, January 16, 2009 1:09 pm, Mike Rambo wrote: > > I had a problem with a raid 5 array. When I got it back up I found > everything looks ok except one directory that now appears as follows. > > ?r---w-rwx 33444 3714798861 2557849272 2593351921 2017-08-26 12:38 mdk > > Notice the ? instead of the usual d at the far left plus the weird > large numbers elsewhere. This directory contained at least three and > probably four CD iso's which probably accounts for the size. No idea > about the bizarre user/group stuff aside from general corruption. > > I'm sure the best thing will be to move the data elsewhere and rebuild > the array but before doing that I'm curious how something like this > might be fixed or if it even can. All the other files and directories > are ok (or at least appear to be) and the array can be otherwise read > and written to without difficulty. > > I can't even delete this item. > > > -- > Mike Rambo From mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us Fri Jan 16 21:59:22 2009 From: mrambo at lsd.k12.mi.us (Mike Rambo) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:59:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] how to remove In-Reply-To: <1232141337.44468.48.camel@eshop1.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: <9448970.9321232161162423.JavaMail.root@pandora.lsd.k12.mi.us> ----- Original Message ----- From: tigner To: Mike Rambo Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:28:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [GLLUG] how to remove It is very important IMHO to perform a low level test of the disk anytime possible corruption occurs. A sector or group of sectors can become marginal. Manufacturers of disk drives provide free low level testing software. I would run the low level test before I tried to fsck the drive, it could mask the problem -or- make it worse. I recommend turning on S.M.A.R.T on your drives and running S.M.A.R.T reporting software on your system. Many times S.M.A.R.T testing or low level testing will let you know if the drive is failing or about to fail and if this is the case, then you are wasting your time running high level OS file recovery routines suck as fsck, chkdsk, drvchk etc. Know your drive is good before you mess with the data. Barry This is an array of 6 old 9GB 10000 rpm scsi drives on a compaq hardware raid controller. I don't think they support smart. Since the data is striped across all disks in a raid 5 array any single failed disk shouldn't cause this problem anyway. The remaining files and directories (all two dozen of them) seem to be ok. I'll probably try to copy the data to other media on Tuesday when I get back to work and then rebuild the array - perhaps with another raid controller. I use this particular array mostly to hold linux distro iso's until I'm done with them. Fortunately there is almost nothing there that result in any lost sleep were it to be lost anyway. I was mostly curious about what I could do to recover this data just in case I ever have the problem where the data is actually important. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:20 -0500, Mike Rambo wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:31:50 -0500 > "Stanley C. Mortel" wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > Have you tried badblocks and fsck? > > > > fsck was the first thing I did. It doesn't see anything wrong with the > file system. Guess whatever is the cause is not something that offends > fsck. I did not try bad blocks though. I thought that was for marking > bad blocks on the disk so they were not used at all. Not so? > > All I really need to do is delete the now extraneous entry although if it > were it recoverable I think it would be an interesting learning exercise. > > > > Stan > > > > Mike Rambo wrote: > > > I had a problem with a raid 5 array. When I got it back up I found > > > everything looks ok except one directory that now appears as > > > follows. > > > > > > ?r---w-rwx 33444 3714798861 2557849272 2593351921 2017-08-26 12:38 > > > mdk > > > > > > Notice the ? instead of the usual d at the far left plus the weird > > > > > > > > > I can't even delete this item. > > > > > > > > > > > From rick at divinesymphony.net Fri Jan 16 21:34:45 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:45 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] PenguiCon In-Reply-To: <5a2d44a90901150504m369da187tb0f5a3e2565edff3@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2d44a90901150504m369da187tb0f5a3e2565edff3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Trevor, I ran the keysigning party last year and intend to do so again this year (this time with more than a week's preparation). I haven't started to get the fine details together yet, but we (many of the people that made assurer status last year intend to return and help out) were tentatively thinking something along the lines of splitting this up a little bit. I'd like to move the identity verification portion out either to a common area like the lobby or into a nearby room (ideally where we can re-arrange the tables to form some lines). I was also thinking that we should extend the total event into two panels (CAcert.org registration, identity verification, forms, etc. for the first -- and a lab-style walkthrough with GnuPG + classroom instruction w/ theory for the second). Depending on the number of interested parties, I might also be able to pull together an advanced session on Friday evening (or early Saturday morning) for those aiming for assurer status or developing PKI/WoT solutions for business, etc. I was also considering an RPM version of last year's package jam, but I don't think I could pull both off. So, it's going to take me a little while to decide on this one. The ribbons were a really nice touch last year (although it took me something like two hours to track down who they had came from). Thank you again! I've got a few ideas for some more unique ones relating to these panels this year, but I'd rather not discuss those openly on the list :). I've got plenty of time on the ribbons, right? Can I get back to you about all this next week after I talk to everyone, get an idea of the facilities layout, etc? 2009/1/15 Trevor Jagoda > Hello! > > I am Trevor Jagoda, the head of PenguiCon 7.0's Tech Track. Why am I > harassing your mailing lists, you say? It's quite simple, I need more > presentations and panels! > > So, if any of you out there would like to present your hobbies, interests, > knowledge(s), or frighteningly-hacked-together homebrew contraptions at > PenguiCon, e-mail me! > > Send a panel/talk/event/activity title to "trevor.jagoda at gmail.com", along > with a small descriptive blurb, and a list of the participants (list of > participants is not needed if you are doing a solo-talk), and we'll get you > scheduled into the fun! > > > Separately, I know last year's key signing party was a pretty huge hit. If > the GLLUG-affiliated computer lounge administrators are on this list, are > you guys all set to go at that again this year? I will order the > appropriate ribbons if so. > > > > > Thanks, > > Trevor Jagoda > Tech Track Head > PenguiCon 7.0 > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Michael Rudas wrote: > This is certainly the type of publicity that Linux DOESN'T need... > > > ~~ Michael Rudas > My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com > My blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > mdlug mailing list > mdlug at mdlug.org > http://mdlug.org/mailman/listinfo/mdlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090117/585dc043/attachment.html From charles at bityard.net Mon Jan 19 00:12:56 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (charles at bityard.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:12:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Volunteer Schedule Message-ID: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> The Penguicon Concom have been using this DabbleDB thing and it looked really cool so I decided to try it out for our computer lounge volunteer schedule. I was hoping to allow people to sign themselves up for specific slots, but it doesn't appear that the permissions are fine-grained enough to not lead us into chaos. (Nor is there anything to allow moderation of entries.) http://gllug.dabbledb.com/ This is what I have so far. It'll work for now I guess. Maybe a Google Spreadsheet could offer greater flexibility. I'd really like to write my own damn web app but I don't know when I'll find the time. :P Chick: Am I missing any useful fields? Are 1-hour timeslots okay? Any particular advice you can impart? Charles -- http://bityard.net From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jan 19 09:34:51 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:34:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Volunteer Schedule In-Reply-To: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> References: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> Message-ID: There's an extension of the drupal event module for volunteer signup. I propose that we integrate that into our website, which seems like a better solution. Nothing against the dabble db, but why not use the resources we already have, rather than spreading our resources over a bunch of sites? "Event Manager" and "Event with volunteer time slots" are the two most obvious ones. Neither has been ported to version 6, but I think the site is still on version 5, so that's cool. Clay On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, charles at bityard.net wrote: > The Penguicon Concom have been using this DabbleDB thing and it looked > really cool so I decided to try it out for our computer lounge volunteer > schedule. I was hoping to allow people to sign themselves up for specific > slots, but it doesn't appear that the permissions are fine-grained enough > to not lead us into chaos. (Nor is there anything to allow moderation of > entries.) > > http://gllug.dabbledb.com/ > > This is what I have so far. It'll work for now I guess. Maybe a Google > Spreadsheet could offer greater flexibility. I'd really like to write my > own damn web app but I don't know when I'll find the time. :P > > Chick: Am I missing any useful fields? Are 1-hour timeslots okay? Any > particular advice you can impart? > > Charles > From charles at bityard.net Mon Jan 19 16:27:38 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (charles at bityard.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:27:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Volunteer Schedule In-Reply-To: References: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> Message-ID: <37404.69.16.222.129.1232400458.squirrel@host.bityard.net> Splendid idea. Would either of those modules allow visitors to request a certain slot without having to register? Even a simple form that just sends an email would suffice. As the resident Drupal guru, would you be willing to set it up? What little I did know of Drupal has been long forgotten. :) Charles On Mon, January 19, 2009 9:34 am, Clay Dowling wrote: > There's an extension of the drupal event module for volunteer signup. I > propose that we integrate that into our website, which seems like a better > solution. Nothing against the dabble db, but why not use the resources we > already have, rather than spreading our resources over a bunch of sites? > > "Event Manager" and "Event with volunteer time slots" are the two most > obvious ones. Neither has been ported to version 6, but I think the site > is still on version 5, so that's cool. > > Clay -- http://bityard.net From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jan 19 20:34:30 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:34:30 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Volunteer Schedule In-Reply-To: <37404.69.16.222.129.1232400458.squirrel@host.bityard.net> References: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> <37404.69.16.222.129.1232400458.squirrel@host.bityard.net> Message-ID: <49752A26.7010501@lazarusid.com> I'll check into it. Because yes, we don't want people to go through the arduous registration process, since it involves being physically present at a GLLUG meeting. We can definitely send an email from a contact form though. I'll see if that will work. Clay charles at bityard.net wrote: > Splendid idea. Would either of those modules allow visitors to request a > certain slot without having to register? Even a simple form that just > sends an email would suffice. > > As the resident Drupal guru, would you be willing to set it up? What > little I did know of Drupal has been long forgotten. :) > > Charles > > On Mon, January 19, 2009 9:34 am, Clay Dowling wrote: >> There's an extension of the drupal event module for volunteer signup. I >> propose that we integrate that into our website, which seems like a better >> solution. Nothing against the dabble db, but why not use the resources we >> already have, rather than spreading our resources over a bunch of sites? >> >> "Event Manager" and "Event with volunteer time slots" are the two most >> obvious ones. Neither has been ported to version 6, but I think the site >> is still on version 5, so that's cool. >> >> Clay > > > -- Knock Down Desk: From unpacking to fully assembled in 10 minutes http://www.knockdowndesk.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is why LUGs should be fighting to get access to elementary schools and high schools to give panels and presentations, if kids learn that there is a (better) alternative to comercial O$'es and Apps since the early education years, the could at least figure it out how to connect to the internet and run M$ Office on Wine or another VM, or even understand that OO is compatible with Office and etc...... Eduardo Cesconetto | eduardo at cesconetto.com | (517) 507-5966 On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Michael Rudas wrote: > This is certainly the type of publicity that Linux DOESN'T need... > > > ~~ Michael Rudas > My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com > My blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From sjsayers93 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 19:03:45 2009 From: sjsayers93 at gmail.com (Steven Sayers) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:03:45 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] TV News segment: clueless In-Reply-To: References: <62CFD320-ED01-4EAB-B04D-864EE2244026@cesconetto.com> Message-ID: Okay, I've been hiding in my no email list corner for a while but let me say a few things. Firstly, she couldn't of accidentally "link surfed" her way to windows, but then again my assumption of people are 'somewhat intelligent' must be wrong due to her limited vocabulary. However skipping the personal insults to her, if dell sold the laptop it would be able to connect to the Internet, it was more than likely her own fault. I don't really have anything constructive to comment upon, it's just disgusting. This is a blow to an operating system that should be able to target the open minded youth. Grr... On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:01 AM, eduardo cesconetto wrote: > The big problem here is the lack of support from most schools, >> colleges and universities, I work at Apple an every year we see a >> great amount of people that come back to the Apple Store(Genius Bar) >> to seek help to install Windows on a VM or Boot Camp because you can't >> even authenticate to the school's network w/o running some sort of >> ActiveX plugin on IE(not even Firefox)... >> >> This is why LUGs should be fighting to get access to elementary >> schools and high schools to give panels and presentations, if kids >> learn that there is a (better) alternative to comercial O$'es and Apps >> since the early education years, the could at least figure it out how >> to connect to the internet and run M$ Office on Wine or another VM, or >> even understand that OO is compatible with Office and etc...... >> >> Eduardo Cesconetto | eduardo at cesconetto.com | (517) 507-5966 >> >> >> >> On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Michael Rudas wrote: >> >> > This is certainly the type of publicity that Linux DOESN'T need... >> > >> > >> > ~~ Michael Rudas >> > My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com >> > My blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > linux-user mailing list >> > linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090120/e920ca58/attachment.html From psmith.gllug at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 13:08:31 2009 From: psmith.gllug at gmail.com (Peter Smith) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:08:31 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Volunteer Schedule In-Reply-To: <49752A26.7010501@lazarusid.com> References: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> <37404.69.16.222.129.1232400458.squirrel@host.bityard.net> <49752A26.7010501@lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <12df8d4f0901301008mfeccbdam1e45c2ade2c5d6c9@mail.gmail.com> How are we doing on this? Not to rush anyone, gawd knows I'm not the rushing type...I just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. :) 2009/1/19 Clay Dowling : > I'll check into it. Because yes, we don't want people to go through the > arduous registration process, since it involves being physically present at > a GLLUG meeting. > > We can definitely send an email from a contact form though. I'll see if > that will work. > > Clay > From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jan 30 13:28:56 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:28:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Penguicon Volunteer Schedule In-Reply-To: <12df8d4f0901301008mfeccbdam1e45c2ade2c5d6c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <50934.69.16.222.129.1232341976.squirrel@host.bityard.net> <37404.69.16.222.129.1232400458.squirrel@host.bityard.net> <49752A26.7010501@lazarusid.com> <12df8d4f0901301008mfeccbdam1e45c2ade2c5d6c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Very slowly. I've been involved in a bathroom renovation for the last two weeks. Off the top of my head, "Event with volunteer time slots" at http://drupal.org/project/volunteer_timeslots looks good. It works with 5.x Last I knew the site was running a 5.x version of drupal, so this would work. But somebody with access to the innards should take a look at it to be sure. Clay On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Peter Smith wrote: > How are we doing on this? Not to rush anyone, gawd knows I'm not the > rushing type...I just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. :) > > 2009/1/19 Clay Dowling : >> I'll check into it. Because yes, we don't want people to go through the >> arduous registration process, since it involves being physically present at >> a GLLUG meeting. >> >> We can definitely send an email from a contact form though. I'll see if >> that will work. >> >> Clay >> > From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jan 30 13:32:05 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:32:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Drupal Update Message-ID: Okay, realized I'm one of those cool doods with admin access to the site, and we're running 5.14. That means we can use the Event with volunteer time slots module. I'll get with Rick next week to work this out. Clay From pathakp at stt.msu.edu Sat Jan 31 01:36:07 2009 From: pathakp at stt.msu.edu (Pramod K.. Pathak) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:36:07 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Linux OS and dvi2html Message-ID: 090131 Dear Colleagues, I would much obliged if you could let me know which Linux OS I should use for dvi2hml to function well. I have used dvi2html with great success for many years on an older machine which crashed a few weeks ago. On my new computer dvi2html simply does not work. It does not reproduce images. I am pretty disappointed since I use it often. Regards, Pramod K Pathak Professor _ From c.e.tower at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 04:50:44 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:50:44 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Linux OS and dvi2html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49841EF4.5040803@gmail.com> What Linux distribution and version were you using when dvi2html worked? What are you using now? Debian seems to have a reports of bugs with it from 2003 and 2007. I can't tell if it ever got fixed, but here's some patch for a specific version of the TeX-Guy package: http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/debianonly/view/tex-guy/1.3.2-5 Even if you're using Debian, I don't know if this helps. I'm not a Debian user. dvi2html seems to be part of the TeX-Guy package in both SUSE and Debian, so maybe the TeX-Guy project home page can help: http://www-masu.ist.osaka-u.ac.jp/~kakugawa/TeX-Guy/ Perhaps you can find some help in TeX-related Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=nhpsfg&q=TeX&qt_s=Search+for+a+group Or, searching there for dvi2html: http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=dvi2html&qt_s=Search Chick Pramod K.. Pathak wrote: > 090131 > > Dear Colleagues, > > > I would much obliged if you could let me know which Linux OS I should use for dvi2hml to function well. > I have used dvi2html with great success for many years on an older machine which crashed a few > weeks ago. On my new computer dvi2html simply does not work. It does not reproduce images. > I am pretty disappointed since I use it often. > > Regards, > Pramod K Pathak > Professor From audiotech50 at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 10:37:06 2009 From: audiotech50 at gmail.com (Michael Rudas) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:37:06 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Linux-powered pico DLP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --- Michael Rudas wrote: > Here's an interesting new iteration of TI's micro-mirror/DLP technology: > "Look 'Ma! A Drive-In Theatre for Ants!" > > The "BeagleBoard" seems interesting in and of itself... ... and the Pico DLP and BeagleBoard are now available from Digi-Key: Pretty cool--I wonder what folks will come up with for these. I've been doing business with Digi-Key since 1972--it's interesting to see them pop up in the news like this. ~~ Michael Rudas My home page: http://MRudas.2Ya.com My blog: http://FaveSoft.blogspot.com From tigner at msu.edu Sat Jan 31 10:49:11 2009 From: tigner at msu.edu (Barry) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:49:11 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Linux OS and dvi2html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1233416951.65514.1.camel@home.comcast.mi.net> Dear Professor Pathak, If the .dvi files came from a LaTex file, you should be able to use latex2html to convert directly without having to make the .dvi file first. At least, that is how I would do it on freeBSD. On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 01:36 -0500, Pramod K.. Pathak wrote: > 090131 > > Dear Colleagues, > > > I would much obliged if you could let me know which Linux OS I should use for dvi2hml to function well. > I have used dvi2html with great success for many years on an older machine which crashed a few > weeks ago. On my new computer dvi2html simply does not work. It does not reproduce images. > I am pretty disappointed since I use it often. > > Regards, > Pramod K Pathak > Professor > _ > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > -- Barry