From c.e.tower at gmail.com Tue Jun 2 19:01:35 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:01:35 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar Message-ID: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> Food for thought about running a LUG. I like the idea of Saturday meetings; perhaps we could have one a month. http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug -- Chick From charles at bityard.net Tue Jun 2 22:57:05 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (charles at bityard.net) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar In-Reply-To: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> References: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46181.72.52.190.38.1243997825.squirrel@host.bityard.net> On Tue, June 2, 2009 7:01 pm, Chick Tower wrote: > Food for thought about running a LUG. I like the idea of Saturday > meetings; perhaps we could have one a month. > > http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug Some pretty reasonable ideas on there. I still think Gone Wired was the best meeting place we had until it got noisy and overpriced. The casualness (if that's a word) made the LUG really approachable and I believe was the main thing responsible for the huge swell in membership during that time. I'm up for Saturday meetings, because that would mean I could actually attend again. :) The downside is that many people are out of town or otherwise engaged over the weekend, but maybe those people would be outnumbered by those who can't make it on a weekday. Charles -- http://bityard.net From david at ramaboo.com Wed Jun 3 02:40:40 2009 From: david at ramaboo.com (David Singer) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:40:40 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar In-Reply-To: <46181.72.52.190.38.1243997825.squirrel@host.bityard.net> References: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> <46181.72.52.190.38.1243997825.squirrel@host.bityard.net> Message-ID: <80324a260906022340kcebb446ydebac7c730107ff@mail.gmail.com> What about the side room at Gone Wired. We might be able to reserve it. I know other groups do that. David On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:57 PM, wrote: > > On Tue, June 2, 2009 7:01 pm, Chick Tower wrote: >> Food for thought about running a LUG. ?I like the idea of Saturday >> meetings; perhaps we could have one a month. >> >> http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug > > Some pretty reasonable ideas on there. I still think Gone Wired was the > best meeting place we had until it got noisy and overpriced. The > casualness (if that's a word) made the LUG really approachable and I > believe was the main thing responsible for the huge swell in membership > during that time. > > I'm up for Saturday meetings, because that would mean I could actually > attend again. :) The downside is that many people are out of town or > otherwise engaged over the weekend, but maybe those people would be > outnumbered by those who can't make it on a weekday. > > Charles > -- > http://bityard.net > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From jfick at mphi.org Wed Jun 3 07:21:27 2009 From: jfick at mphi.org (Jim Fick) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:21:27 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar In-Reply-To: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> References: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have fond memories of attending meetings at Gone Wired. The noise helped you drown out the people you didn't what to hear speak and helped you concentrate on the ones you wanted talk to. James Fick Security Engineer 2501 Jolly Road, Suite 180 Okemos, MI 48864 517-324-8304 -----Original Message----- From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Chick Tower Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:02 PM To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar Food for thought about running a LUG. I like the idea of Saturday meetings; perhaps we could have one a month. http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug -- Chick _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From lrmeredith at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 10:52:43 2009 From: lrmeredith at gmail.com (Lani Meredith) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:52:43 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Food Message-ID: <7acc36fb0906030752o4f039cdcq940d507fad436d72@mail.gmail.com> Would anyone be interested in eating deviled eggs at next week's cookout? I was thinking two dozen eggs = 48 deviled eggs = at least a couple for everyone, or I could just bring Doritos instead. Lani Meredith From currentlyunnameddj at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 11:08:11 2009 From: currentlyunnameddj at gmail.com (Ariel Lonchar) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:08:11 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar In-Reply-To: References: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93f068b10906030808jbaf8d56j65e16629011fd606@mail.gmail.com> I've been to Gone Wired a couple of weeks ago. They've changed their hours, so it's now only open until 10pm, but it's certainly not as crowded as it used to be. And while they pipe music in, it's not the obnoxious stuff they now play at the Library to chase us out. Prices are still on the high side (and the quality is still meh, except for the pizzas. Better (and cheaper!) coffee drinks and Italian Sodas can be gotten at Decker's, but they close at 6pm). Just my two cents, Ari On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jim Fick wrote: > I have fond memories of attending meetings at Gone Wired. The noise > helped you drown out the people you didn't what to hear speak and helped > you concentrate on the ones you wanted talk to. > > > > James Fick > Security Engineer > 2501 Jolly Road, Suite 180 > Okemos, MI 48864 > 517-324-8304 > > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu > [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Chick Tower > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:02 PM > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar > > Food for thought about running a LUG. I like the idea of Saturday > meetings; perhaps we could have one a month. > > http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug > -- > > Chick > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090603/6fb81b56/attachment.html From frank.dolinar at comcast.net Wed Jun 3 12:21:28 2009 From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net (frank.dolinar at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GLLUG] Food In-Reply-To: <7acc36fb0906030752o4f039cdcq940d507fad436d72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <710055908.123731244046088117.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Cookout, Gracie? I've been chained to my computer at work lately and have not been checking my email. What have I missed? Where / When ? Other plans? Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lani Meredith" To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:52:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [GLLUG] Food Would anyone be interested in eating deviled eggs at next week's cookout? I was thinking two dozen eggs = 48 deviled eggs = at least a couple for everyone, or I could just bring Doritos instead. Lani Meredith _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090603/9fda5022/attachment.html From mlachniet at analysts.com Wed Jun 3 12:42:59 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:42:59 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar In-Reply-To: <93f068b10906030808jbaf8d56j65e16629011fd606@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A25AF4F.8070304@gmail.com> <93f068b10906030808jbaf8d56j65e16629011fd606@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498E8E@dtwcoexmbx1> Personally I really liked Gone Wired as a location. I didn't think the costs were too much. Plus, you are allowed to bring in your own beer and wine (or were, at least). Plus I really like Colleen who runs the place. Of course I'm biased because I worked with her before and was friends with her. For my part I'd be more likely to show up at GW, though I'm still an over-scheduled lame-o and unlikely to show up on any given day :) Mark Lachniet | Solutions Architect, Security Analysts International Corporation | 3101 Technology Blvd Suite A | Lansing, MI 48910 p. 517.336.1004 | m. 517.648.7903 | mlachniet at analysts.com | www.analysts.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. ________________________________ From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Ariel Lonchar Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar I've been to Gone Wired a couple of weeks ago. They've changed their hours, so it's now only open until 10pm, but it's certainly not as crowded as it used to be. And while they pipe music in, it's not the obnoxious stuff they now play at the Library to chase us out. Prices are still on the high side (and the quality is still meh, except for the pizzas. Better (and cheaper!) coffee drinks and Italian Sodas can be gotten at Decker's, but they close at 6pm). Just my two cents, Ari On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jim Fick > wrote: I have fond memories of attending meetings at Gone Wired. The noise helped you drown out the people you didn't what to hear speak and helped you concentrate on the ones you wanted talk to. James Fick Security Engineer 2501 Jolly Road, Suite 180 Okemos, MI 48864 517-324-8304 -----Original Message----- From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Chick Tower Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:02 PM To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Subject: [GLLUG] Spice up your LUG! | TuxRadar Food for thought about running a LUG. I like the idea of Saturday meetings; perhaps we could have one a month. http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug -- Chick _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090603/bab99832/attachment.html From mlachniet at analysts.com Wed Jun 3 12:57:26 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:57:26 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498EA3@dtwcoexmbx1> I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They all work. I also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). In addition a few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. More ribbon cables than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. I also have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too big for my rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping these beasts exceeds their value Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff From jeff at idealso.com Wed Jun 3 14:00:13 2009 From: jeff at idealso.com (Jeff Lawton) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:00:13 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Food In-Reply-To: <710055908.123731244046088117.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <710055908.123731244046088117.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A26BA2D.6030502@idealso.com> Thu, 05/28/2009 - 19:55 ? cdowling Start: 06/11/2009 - 17:30 End: 06/11/2009 - 21:00 Timezone: Etc/GMT-4 We're going to grill some dead animals at Jeff's compound. It's a pot-luck affair, so you should post to the list for what you're interested in bringing. Jeff is picking up the dead animals, and monetary contributions wouldn't be amiss. Event happens rain or shine: there's plenty of covered seating. for directions: http://gllug.org/node/94 frank.dolinar at comcast.net wrote: > Cookout, Gracie? > > I've been chained to my computer at work lately and have not been > checking my email. > > What have I missed? Where / When ? Other plans? > > Frank > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lani Meredith" > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:52:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [GLLUG] Food > > Would anyone be interested in eating deviled eggs at next week's > cookout? I was thinking two dozen eggs = 48 deviled eggs = at least a > couple for everyone, or I could just bring Doritos instead. > > Lani Meredith > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > -- Jeff Lawton Ideal Solution, LLC 517-485-2650 ext 220 jeff at idealso.com http://www.idealso.com From frank.dolinar at comcast.net Wed Jun 3 14:35:06 2009 From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net (frank.dolinar at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498EA3@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: <236199038.194531244054106734.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Mark, I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, processor, with or without memory? And I may have a use for the Xeon server. How big is the box? Is the 9Gb disk part of that or separate? How noisy is the power supply? Please advise. Thanks, Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lachniet" To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They all work. I also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). In addition a few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. More ribbon cables than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. I also have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too big for my rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping these beasts exceeds their value Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090603/5bca43aa/attachment.html From mlachniet at analysts.com Wed Jun 3 14:41:08 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:41:08 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <236199038.194531244054106734.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498EA3@dtwcoexmbx1> <236199038.194531244054106734.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498F02@dtwcoexmbx1> Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes. They run Windows XP just fine. Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY. I think like 16U maybe? or 12? . The first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU. Both Xeon. They both have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth money). Thus the CPUs have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for the disks) They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in a day - but they would not be super fast. I think I have at least one person who is gonna take the Dell servers. The 9gb disk is just the only LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install VMWARE ESX on it I think. Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there by a frayed SCSI cable but functional ________________________________ From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM To: Lachniet, Mark Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware Mark, I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, processor, with or without memory? And I may have a use for the Xeon server. How big is the box? Is the 9Gb disk part of that or separate? How noisy is the power supply? Please advise. Thanks, Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lachniet" To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They all work. I also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). In addition a few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. More ribbon cables than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. I also have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too big for my rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping these beasts exceeds their value Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090603/e2620c9f/attachment.html From goofle1 at att.net Wed Jun 3 19:02:34 2009 From: goofle1 at att.net (Dave) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:02:34 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] IBM Thinkpad with Gobo Linux Message-ID: <4A27010A.90904@att.net> Hello, Well, we have returned from our fifteen day vacation in Arizona with an IBM Thinkpad Laptop ( my first laptop ) with 1/2 OS as WIN and the better half as Gobo Linux. This is 1.7 G with a new 160 G HD, and 1.256 Memory. Somebody on GLLUG about a year ago suggested the Gobo Linux distribution here, and I did download the ISO disc to sample it, and liked it but didn't have the room to install it then. My son did and it went without a hitch. Now, if the person that originally mentioned Gobo is still on GLLUG I'd like him to write me so maybe I can use his knowledge of Gobo to assist me in using it without making my usual MESS of things. Have several questions as what to do to install certain programs into Gobo. dave Felzke Ionia goofle1_att.net From c.e.tower at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 17:18:29 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:18:29 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Food In-Reply-To: <7acc36fb0906030752o4f039cdcq940d507fad436d72@mail.gmail.com> References: <7acc36fb0906030752o4f039cdcq940d507fad436d72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A26E8A5.7020203@gmail.com> Well, since nobody else has replied, Lani, I think deviled eggs would be good. We've had them before and most of them were eaten. But I won't be there, so don't make extra for me. Chick Lani Meredith wrote: > Would anyone be interested in eating deviled eggs at next week's > cookout? I was thinking two dozen eggs = 48 deviled eggs = at least a > couple for everyone, or I could just bring Doritos instead. > > Lani Meredith > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From david at ramaboo.com Wed Jun 3 22:13:08 2009 From: david at ramaboo.com (David Singer) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:13:08 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Food In-Reply-To: <4A26E8A5.7020203@gmail.com> References: <7acc36fb0906030752o4f039cdcq940d507fad436d72@mail.gmail.com> <4A26E8A5.7020203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <80324a260906031913k2685f10fs88ed338f6ac5d739@mail.gmail.com> I like deviled eggs. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > Well, since nobody else has replied, Lani, I think deviled eggs would be > good. ?We've had them before and most of them were eaten. ?But I won't > be there, so don't make extra for me. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Chick > > > Lani Meredith wrote: >> Would anyone be interested in eating deviled eggs at next week's >> cookout? ?I was thinking two dozen eggs = 48 deviled eggs = at least a >> couple for everyone, or I could just bring Doritos instead. >> >> Lani Meredith >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From c.e.tower at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 15:22:33 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:22:33 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> This d*bag reveals his strategy with the Joseph Goebbels quote he places at the bottom of every single page -- "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." For those who haven't wasted their time reading it, it's an anti-Semitic rant that goes so far as to proclaim Hitler as more deserving of respect and honor than Einstein. Does anyone know how to easily put someone's e-mail address onto as many spam lists as possible? Chick Joel Mayer wrote: > Dear GLLUG- > > I am enclosing, as a virus free attachment an essay entitled: JEWISH > MILITARY > SERVICE (Laugh Out Loud). As you can see from this there is no such thing as > jewish military service. In particular I should like to call your > attention to page > five of my thesis. Where I document the strange behavior of a Florida jew > named Jacob Stern. Who went around for years pretending to be a wounded > combat veteran and a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor. How does > a jew lie about such issues and not end up in jail? > > Why hasn't it dawned on all of you, Information Technology > Professionals, that > the ruin of your profession is the H1B Visa, and that this curse came > straight > to you out of the twisted mind of the jew? > > Please feel free forward this e-mail. > > From mlachniet at analysts.com Thu Jun 4 15:39:37 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:39:37 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> References: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> Yeah, I'm guessing that that was an infected PDF intended to hack your computer. No sane person would make such an arse of themselves. Mark Lachniet | Solutions Architect, Security Analysts International Corporation | 3101 Technology Blvd Suite A | Lansing, MI 48910 p. 517.336.1004 | m. 517.648.7903 | mlachniet at analysts.com | www.analysts.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. -----Original Message----- From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Chick Tower Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:23 PM To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa This d*bag reveals his strategy with the Joseph Goebbels quote he places at the bottom of every single page -- "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." For those who haven't wasted their time reading it, it's an anti-Semitic rant that goes so far as to proclaim Hitler as more deserving of respect and honor than Einstein. Does anyone know how to easily put someone's e-mail address onto as many spam lists as possible? Chick Joel Mayer wrote: > Dear GLLUG- > > I am enclosing, as a virus free attachment an essay entitled: JEWISH > MILITARY SERVICE (Laugh Out Loud). As you can see from this there is > no such thing as jewish military service. In particular I should like > to call your attention to page five of my thesis. Where I document the > strange behavior of a Florida jew named Jacob Stern. Who went around > for years pretending to be a wounded combat veteran and a recipient of > the Congressional Medal of Honor. How does a jew lie about such issues > and not end up in jail? > > Why hasn't it dawned on all of you, Information Technology > Professionals, that the ruin of your profession is the H1B Visa, and > that this curse came straight to you out of the twisted mind of the > jew? > > Please feel free forward this e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From c.e.tower at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 15:57:20 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:57:20 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> References: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: <4A282720.1090605@gmail.com> Oh, it couldn't possibly be infected. He said it's clean himself in the very first line. Chick Lachniet, Mark wrote: > Yeah, I'm guessing that that was an infected PDF intended to hack > your computer. No sane person would make such an arse of themselves. > > Joel Mayer wrote: >> >> I am enclosing, as a virus free attachment an essay entitled: >> JEWISH MILITARY SERVICE (Laugh Out Loud).... From c.e.tower at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 23:47:03 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:47:03 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> References: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: <4A289537.6030807@gmail.com> I just remembered that the GLLUG mailing list only allows members to post to it, so most people never saw the original post, unless Joel Mayer is a member of the list. I don't recall his name. Sorry to have bothered the rest of you with this. Chick Lachniet, Mark wrote: > Yeah, I'm guessing that that was an infected PDF intended to hack > your computer. No sane person would make such an arse of themselves. From rick at divinesymphony.net Fri Jun 5 01:29:22 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 01:29:22 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498F02@dtwcoexmbx1> References: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498EA3@dtwcoexmbx1> <236199038.194531244054106734.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498F02@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: I've got a random closet full of parts, too. Is there any interest in getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our own not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, > but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos > that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes.? They run Windows XP just > fine.? Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. > > The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY.? I think like 16U maybe?? or 12??.? The > first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU.? Both Xeon.? They both > have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth > money).? Thus the CPUs?have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. > Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for > the disks)? They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high > availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in > a day - but they would not be super fast.? I think I have at least one > person who is gonna take the Dell servers.? The 9gb disk is just the only > LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install > VMWARE ESX on it I think.? Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there > by a frayed SCSI cable but functional > ________________________________ > From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM > To: Lachniet, Mark > Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > Mark, > ?? I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, > processor, with or without memory? > ?? And I may have a use for the Xeon server.? How big is the box?? Is the > 9Gb disk part of that or separate?? How noisy is the power supply? > > ?? Please advise. > > Thanks, > Frank > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Lachniet" > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. > ?A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to > about 1gig in speed. ?Most of them need PC 3200 memory. ?They all work. ?I > also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). ?In addition a > few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. ?More ribbon cables > than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. ?I also > have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of > memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. ?They are too big for my > rack but they work. ?I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping > these beasts exceeds their value > > Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > From rick at divinesymphony.net Fri Jun 5 01:45:04 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 01:45:04 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> References: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone know how to easily put someone's e-mail address onto as many spam lists as possible? Mail admins have had such scripts available for several years to handle repeat UCE problems. Google is your friend. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > This d*bag reveals his strategy with the Joseph Goebbels quote he places > at the bottom of every single page -- "If you tell a lie big enough and > keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." ?For > those who haven't wasted their time reading it, it's an anti-Semitic > rant that goes so far as to proclaim Hitler as more deserving of respect > and honor than Einstein. > > Does anyone know how to easily put someone's e-mail address onto as many > spam lists as possible? > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Chick > > > Joel Mayer wrote: >> Dear GLLUG- >> >> I am enclosing, as a virus free attachment an essay entitled: JEWISH >> MILITARY >> SERVICE (Laugh Out Loud). As you can see from this there is no such thing as >> jewish military service. In particular I should like to call your >> attention to page >> five of my thesis. Where I document the strange behavior of a Florida jew >> named Jacob Stern. Who went around for years pretending to be a wounded >> combat veteran and a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor. How does >> a jew lie about such issues and not end up in jail? >> >> Why hasn't it dawned on all of you, Information Technology >> Professionals, that >> the ruin of your profession is the H1B Visa, and that this curse came >> straight >> to you out of the twisted mind of the jew? >> >> Please feel free forward this e-mail. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 5 08:36:22 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:36:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> References: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A499203@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > Yeah, I'm guessing that that was an infected PDF intended to hack your computer. No sane person would make such an arse of themselves. > I wish I could agree with you. Unfortunately the internet is infested with these kind of losers, who actually believe their crazy conspiracies. Thankfully, I didn't actually receive the original message, or my built-in crap filter looked at the subject line and auto-deleted it without even registering it in my brain. I wonder, is this person aware that a) There are jews in GLLUG b) There are bikers in GLLUG, who happen to be friends with the jews? Just saying, the anti-semitic rant thing is probably not going to have the result they're looking for. Clay From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 5 08:38:19 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:38:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Military Service Rates and the H1B Visa In-Reply-To: References: <4A281EF9.9090102@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Richard Houser wrote: >> Does anyone know how to easily put someone's e-mail address onto as many > spam lists as possible? > > Mail admins have had such scripts available for several years to > handle repeat UCE problems. Google is your friend. I think the NAMBLA mailing lists would be a good start. From charles at bityard.net Fri Jun 5 12:59:53 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles Ulrich) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:59:53 -0000 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware Message-ID: <1238951045.1568.3.camel@Nokia-N800-23-14> I like this idea. Despite my best efforts at not accumulating too much crap, I still find myself periodically needing to get rid of a small pile of perfectly good (if somewhat outdated) hardware. Charles ----- Original message ----- > I've got a random closet full of parts, too.? Is there any interest in > getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our own > not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > > Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, > > but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos > > that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes.? They run Windows XP just > > fine.? Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. > > > > The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY.? I think like 16U maybe?? or 12??.? The > > first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU.? Both Xeon.? They both > > have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth > > money).? Thus the CPUs?have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. > > Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for > > the disks)? They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high > > availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in > > a day - but they would not be super fast.? I think I have at least one > > person who is gonna take the Dell servers.? The 9gb disk is just the only > > LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install > > VMWARE ESX on it I think.? Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there > > by a frayed SCSI cable but functional > > ________________________________ > > From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM > > To: Lachniet, Mark > > Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > > > Mark, > > ?? I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, > > processor, with or without memory? > > ?? And I may have a use for the Xeon server.? How big is the box?? Is the > > 9Gb disk part of that or separate?? How noisy is the power supply? > > > > ?? Please advise. > > > > Thanks, > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Lachniet" > > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > > > I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. > > ?A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to > > about 1gig in speed. ?Most of them need PC 3200 memory. ?They all work. ?I > > also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). ?In addition a > > few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. ?More ribbon cables > > than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. ?I also > > have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of > > memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. ?They are too big for my > > rack but they work. ?I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping > > these beasts exceeds their value > > > > Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From mlachniet at analysts.com Fri Jun 5 13:22:01 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:22:01 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A21A52B@dtwcoexmbx1> Sounds like we have more junk than people needing it. Maybe we should donate to a LCC tech program or something ----- Original Message ----- From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Sun Apr 05 13:04:05 2009 Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware I like this idea. Despite my best efforts at not accumulating too much crap, I still find myself periodically needing to get rid of a small pile of perfectly good (if somewhat outdated) hardware. Charles ----- Original message ----- > I've got a random closet full of parts, too.? Is there any interest in > getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our own > not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > > Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, > > but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos > > that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes.? They run Windows XP just > > fine.? Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. > > > > The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY.? I think like 16U maybe?? or 12??.? The > > first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU.? Both Xeon.? They both > > have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth > > money).? Thus the CPUs?have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. > > Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for > > the disks)? They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high > > availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in > > a day - but they would not be super fast.? I think I have at least one > > person who is gonna take the Dell servers.? The 9gb disk is just the only > > LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install > > VMWARE ESX on it I think.? Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there > > by a frayed SCSI cable but functional > > ________________________________ > > From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM > > To: Lachniet, Mark > > Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > > > Mark, > > ?? I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, > > processor, with or without memory? > > ?? And I may have a use for the Xeon server.? How big is the box?? Is the > > 9Gb disk part of that or separate?? How noisy is the power supply? > > > > ?? Please advise. > > > > Thanks, > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Lachniet" > > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > > > I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. > > ?A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to > > about 1gig in speed. ?Most of them need PC 3200 memory. ?They all work. ?I > > also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). ?In addition a > > few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. ?More ribbon cables > > than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. ?I also > > have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of > > memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. ?They are too big for my > > rack but they work. ?I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping > > these beasts exceeds their value > > > > Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From frank.dolinar at comcast.net Fri Jun 5 13:29:03 2009 From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net (frank.dolinar at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 17:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <22244529.1069071244222777238.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <579985302.1070351244222943097.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I like the idea, too. Between now and whenever this happens, we might try to get some idea of who might benefit by being gifted with these "potluck" computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Ulrich" To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 1:04:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware I like this idea. Despite my best efforts at not accumulating too much crap, I still find myself periodically needing to get rid of a small pile of perfectly good (if somewhat outdated) hardware. Charles ----- Original message ----- > I've got a random closet full of parts, too. Is there any interest in > getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our own > not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > > Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, > > but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos > > that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes. They run Windows XP just > > fine. Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. > > > > The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY. I think like 16U maybe? or 12? . The > > first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU. Both Xeon. They both > > have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth > > money). Thus the CPUs have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. > > Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for > > the disks) They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high > > availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in > > a day - but they would not be super fast. I think I have at least one > > person who is gonna take the Dell servers. The 9gb disk is just the only > > LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install > > VMWARE ESX on it I think. Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there > > by a frayed SCSI cable but functional > > ________________________________ > > From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM > > To: Lachniet, Mark > > Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > > > Mark, > > I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, > > processor, with or without memory? > > And I may have a use for the Xeon server. How big is the box? Is the > > 9Gb disk part of that or separate? How noisy is the power supply? > > > > Please advise. > > > > Thanks, > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Lachniet" > > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > > > I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. > > A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to > > about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They all work. I > > also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). In addition a > > few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. More ribbon cables > > than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. I also > > have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of > > memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too big for my > > rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping > > these beasts exceeds their value > > > > Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090605/68114bcb/attachment-0001.html From eduardo at cesconetto.com Fri Jun 5 13:53:48 2009 From: eduardo at cesconetto.com (Eduardo Cesconetto) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:53:48 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <1238951045.1568.3.camel@Nokia-N800-23-14> References: <1238951045.1568.3.camel@Nokia-N800-23-14> Message-ID: It would be a nice way to introduce GLLUG to a school, maybe donate a ready-to-go Linux running alternative computer lab, along with a intro to open source panel for students. Just saying... Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Charles Ulrich wrote: > I like this idea. Despite my best efforts at not accumulating too > much crap, I still find myself periodically needing to get rid of a > small pile of perfectly good (if somewhat outdated) hardware. > > Charles > > ----- Original message ----- >> I've got a random closet full of parts, too. Is there any interest >> in >> getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our >> own >> not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, >> Mark wrote: >>> Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans >>> and stuff, >>> but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and >>> CPU combos >>> that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes. They run Windows >>> XP just >>> fine. Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at >>> them. >>> >>> The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY. I think like 16U maybe? or >>> 12? . The >>> first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU. Both Xeon. >>> They both >>> have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably >>> worth >>> money). Thus the CPUs have a huge amount of Cache, but a low >>> clock speed. >>> Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no >>> rails for >>> the disks) They would be perfect for a web server that needed to >>> have high >>> availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power >>> supplies in >>> a day - but they would not be super fast. I think I have at least >>> one >>> person who is gonna take the Dell servers. The 9gb disk is just >>> the only >>> LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and >>> install >>> VMWARE ESX on it I think. Its not even properly mounted, just >>> hanging there >>> by a frayed SCSI cable but functional >>> ________________________________ >>> From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM >>> To: Lachniet, Mark >>> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware >>> >>> Mark, >>> I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. >>> make, model, >>> processor, with or without memory? >>> And I may have a use for the Xeon server. How big is the box? >>> Is the >>> 9Gb disk part of that or separate? How noisy is the power supply? >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Frank >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mark Lachniet" >>> To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >>> Eastern >>> Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware >>> >>> I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a >>> good home. >>> A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally >>> Athlon up to >>> about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They all >>> work. I >>> also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). In >>> addition a >>> few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. More >>> ribbon cables >>> than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. >>> I also >>> have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with >>> 2gb of >>> memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too big >>> for my >>> rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the cost of >>> shipping >>> these beasts exceeds their value >>> >>> Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff >>> _______________________________________________ >>> linux-user mailing list >>> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> linux-user mailing list >>> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From mlachniet at analysts.com Fri Jun 5 14:29:53 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:29:53 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: References: <1238951045.1568.3.camel@Nokia-N800-23-14> Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A49940A@dtwcoexmbx1> I like the idea of actually loading up Linux, and also of giving the hardware to folks who will use it. I occasionally sit on the technology advisory board at LCC - should I call and ask them if they would use it? I even see a tax-writeoff in my future :) Mark Lachniet | Solutions Architect, Security Analysts International Corporation | 3101 Technology Blvd Suite A | Lansing, MI 48910 p. 517.336.1004 | m. 517.648.7903 | mlachniet at analysts.com | www.analysts.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. -----Original Message----- From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Eduardo Cesconetto Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:54 PM To: Charles Ulrich Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware It would be a nice way to introduce GLLUG to a school, maybe donate a ready-to-go Linux running alternative computer lab, along with a intro to open source panel for students. Just saying... Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Charles Ulrich wrote: > I like this idea. Despite my best efforts at not accumulating too much > crap, I still find myself periodically needing to get rid of a small > pile of perfectly good (if somewhat outdated) hardware. > > Charles > > ----- Original message ----- >> I've got a random closet full of parts, too. Is there any interest >> in getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our >> own not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable >> systems? >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, >> Mark wrote: >>> Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans >>> and stuff, but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional >>> motherboard and CPU combos that are fast enough to run decent Linux >>> boxes. They run Windows XP just fine. Come over to my house and >>> you are welcome to poke around at them. >>> >>> The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY. I think like 16U maybe? or 12? >>> . The >>> first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU. Both Xeon. >>> They both >>> have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably >>> worth money). Thus the CPUs have a huge amount of Cache, but a low >>> clock speed. >>> Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no >>> rails for the disks) They would be perfect for a web server that >>> needed to have high availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set >>> up with 3 power supplies in a day - but they would not be super >>> fast. I think I have at least one person who is gonna take the Dell >>> servers. The 9gb disk is just the only LVD SCSI hard drive I had >>> laying around - I threw it in there and install VMWARE ESX on it I >>> think. Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there by a >>> frayed SCSI cable but functional ________________________________ >>> From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM >>> To: Lachniet, Mark >>> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware >>> >>> Mark, >>> I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. >>> make, model, >>> processor, with or without memory? >>> And I may have a use for the Xeon server. How big is the box? >>> Is the >>> 9Gb disk part of that or separate? How noisy is the power supply? >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Frank >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mark Lachniet" >>> To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >>> Eastern >>> Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware >>> >>> I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good >>> home. >>> A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon >>> up to about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They >>> all work. I also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not >>> DVD). In addition a few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through >>> my crap. More ribbon cables >>> than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. >>> I also >>> have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with >>> 2gb of memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too >>> big for my rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the >>> cost of shipping these beasts exceeds their value >>> >>> Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff >>> _______________________________________________ >>> linux-user mailing list >>> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> linux-user mailing list >>> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user at egr.msu.edu http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 5 15:32:30 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:32:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A49940A@dtwcoexmbx1> References: <1238951045.1568.3.camel@Nokia-N800-23-14> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A49940A@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > I like the idea of actually loading up Linux, and also of giving the > hardware to folks who will use it. I occasionally sit on the technology > advisory board at LCC - should I call and ask them if they would use it? > I even see a tax-writeoff in my future :) That sounds like maybe the best way to handle it. It's a more influential group that we'd be reaching that way than if we gave it to a high school. Clay From c.e.tower at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 18:52:35 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:52:35 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] New Meetings Message-ID: <4A29A1B3.2060605@gmail.com> Last night we discussed having meetings some other time than Thursday nights. The consensus was that the first Saturday of each month would be a good time to have them, and probably at Gone Wired for the summer, since it is reportedly much less crowded now than it is during the school year. Also, if we didn't want to wait until August to begin this, we could have the first one June 27th, since the first Saturday in July is the 4th. What does everyone think about this? Have you any other suggestions for times and places? We thought Saturday afternoon would be best, but what do the rest of you think, and what time Saturday afternoon? I guess we could start showing up whenever and stay as long as we like. -- Chick From marr at copper.net Fri Jun 5 19:27:55 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:27:55 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] New Meetings In-Reply-To: <4A29A1B3.2060605@gmail.com> References: <4A29A1B3.2060605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200906051927.55998.marr@copper.net> On Friday 05 June 2009 6:52:35pm Chick Tower wrote: > Last night we discussed having meetings some other time than Thursday > nights. The consensus was that the first Saturday of each month would > be a good time to have them, and probably at Gone Wired for the summer, > since it is reportedly much less crowded now than it is during the > school year. Also, if we didn't want to wait until August to begin > this, we could have the first one June 27th, since the first Saturday in > July is the 4th. > > What does everyone think about this? All of the above sounds good to me. > Have you any other suggestions for times and places? No. > We thought Saturday afternoon would be best, but what > do the rest of you think, I like it. > and what time Saturday afternoon? Starting anywhere from about 1pm to 4pm would work pretty well for this infrequent meeting attendee. :^) Bill Marr From c.e.tower at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 23:07:59 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:07:59 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Get a Linux-powered Dell laptop for $299 | The Cheapskate - CNET News Message-ID: <4A29DD8F.5040809@gmail.com> Anyone in the market for a new laptop? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-10258138-58.html -- Chick From charles at bityard.net Sat Jun 6 17:38:51 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:38:51 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] New Meetings In-Reply-To: <4A29A1B3.2060605@gmail.com> References: <4A29A1B3.2060605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A2AE1EB.7060504@bityard.net> Chick Tower wrote: > Last night we discussed having meetings some other time than Thursday > nights. The consensus was that the first Saturday of each month would > be a good time to have them, and probably at Gone Wired for the summer, > since it is reportedly much less crowded now than it is during the > school year. Also, if we didn't want to wait until August to begin > this, we could have the first one June 27th, since the first Saturday in > July is the 4th. > > What does everyone think about this? Have you any other suggestions for > times and places? We thought Saturday afternoon would be best, but what > do the rest of you think, and what time Saturday afternoon? I guess we > could start showing up whenever and stay as long as we like. I like it. Charles -- http://bityard.net From lee at acd.net Sat Jun 6 18:33:54 2009 From: lee at acd.net (lee at acd.net) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 18:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GLLUG] New Meetings In-Reply-To: <4A2AE1EB.7060504@bityard.net> References: <4A29A1B3.2060605@gmail.com> <4A2AE1EB.7060504@bityard.net> Message-ID: <57824.69.89.102.192.1244327634.squirrel@pop3.acd.net> > Chick Tower wrote: >> Last night we discussed having meetings some other time than Thursday >> nights. The consensus was that the first Saturday of each month would >> be a good time to have them, and probably at Gone Wired for the summer, >> since it is reportedly much less crowded now than it is during the >> school year. Also, if we didn't want to wait until August to begin >> this, we could have the first one June 27th, since the first Saturday in >> July is the 4th. >> >> What does everyone think about this? Have you any other suggestions for >> times and places? We thought Saturday afternoon would be best, but what >> do the rest of you think, and what time Saturday afternoon? I guess we >> could start showing up whenever and stay as long as we like. > > I like it. > > Charles > -- > http://bityard.net > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > Thursday nights conflict with my work schedule. Saturday would be great. Chris From rick at divinesymphony.net Sat Jun 6 21:43:08 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:43:08 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Get a Linux-powered Dell laptop for $299 | The Cheapskate - CNET News In-Reply-To: <4A29DD8F.5040809@gmail.com> References: <4A29DD8F.5040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: Or a used one? My Z71V is getting a little old now, but the specs are better (particularly, graphics and the display) and it's the same price-range. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > Anyone in the market for a new laptop? > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-10258138-58.html > -- > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Chick > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From currentlyunnameddj at gmail.com Sun Jun 7 15:21:18 2009 From: currentlyunnameddj at gmail.com (Ariel Lonchar) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:21:18 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Food In-Reply-To: <80324a260906031913k2685f10fs88ed338f6ac5d739@mail.gmail.com> References: <7acc36fb0906030752o4f039cdcq940d507fad436d72@mail.gmail.com> <4A26E8A5.7020203@gmail.com> <80324a260906031913k2685f10fs88ed338f6ac5d739@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93f068b10906071221p14cf5860w5bd9dc3f5f8af69a@mail.gmail.com> I'm thinking of bringing potato salad. ~Ari~ On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:13 PM, David Singer wrote: > I like deviled eggs. > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > > Well, since nobody else has replied, Lani, I think deviled eggs would be > > good. We've had them before and most of them were eaten. But I won't > > be there, so don't make extra for me. > > > > Chick > > > > > > Lani Meredith wrote: > >> Would anyone be interested in eating deviled eggs at next week's > >> cookout? I was thinking two dozen eggs = 48 deviled eggs = at least a > >> couple for everyone, or I could just bring Doritos instead. > >> > >> Lani Meredith > >> _______________________________________________ > >> linux-user mailing list > >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu > >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-user mailing list > > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil - From rexykik at gmail.com Sun Jun 7 23:24:13 2009 From: rexykik at gmail.com (Karl Schuttler) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:24:13 -0700 Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> Message-ID: <984d708a0906072024k7c79194au54218379ed432b8f@mail.gmail.com> Reeks of existentialism On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:16 PM, wrote: > Hi All, > What makes a secure server? > Phil > > - > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From andres at msu.edu Sun Jun 7 23:24:09 2009 From: andres at msu.edu (STeve Andre') Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:24:09 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> Message-ID: <200906072324.09778.andres@msu.edu> On Sunday 07 June 2009 23:16:01 user at qtm.net wrote: > Hi All, > What makes a secure server? > Phil > > - Thats a loaded question! Secure means that a system does what you want it to do and not let others do things to you. Now, just what that means is entirely dependant on what you're doing. If this isn't a troll attempt, explain what you want and perhaps someone can help you. --STeve Andre' From charles at bityard.net Mon Jun 8 00:51:50 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:51:50 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> Message-ID: <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> user at qtm.net wrote: > Hi All, > What makes a secure server? > Phil Hmm. Debian? Charles -- http://bityard.net From dand at zifferent.net Mon Jun 8 09:11:34 2009 From: dand at zifferent.net (Dan DeSloover) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> Message-ID: <13563.12.107.188.5.1244466694.squirrel@www.zifferent.net> No. A mediocre admin can accidentally make a Debian server insecure in half the time it would take a good admin to do the same thing on purpose. Charles wrote: > user at qtm.net wrote: >> Hi All, >> What makes a secure server? >> Phil > > Hmm. Debian? > > Charles > -- > http://bityard.net > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > ---- Dan DeSloover dand at zifferent.net From karl.schuttler at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 09:23:24 2009 From: karl.schuttler at gmail.com (Karl Schuttler) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 06:23:24 -0700 Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <13563.12.107.188.5.1244466694.squirrel@www.zifferent.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> <13563.12.107.188.5.1244466694.squirrel@www.zifferent.net> Message-ID: <984d708a0906080623u5d38f2d7gdaec70170ed9d4b3@mail.gmail.com> I believe he was being sarcastic... On 6/8/09, Dan DeSloover wrote: > No. A mediocre admin can accidentally make a Debian server insecure in > half the time it would take a good admin to do the same thing on purpose. > > Charles wrote: >> user at qtm.net wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> What makes a secure server? >>> Phil >> >> Hmm. Debian? >> >> Charles >> -- >> http://bityard.net >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> > > > ---- > Dan DeSloover > dand at zifferent.net > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jun 8 10:25:04 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:25:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Charles wrote: > user at qtm.net wrote: >> Hi All, >> What makes a secure server? > > Charles That's probably the more accurate answer. Debian has many excellent features. But what you need isn't a specific collection of software, but an experienced admin, like Charles. Getting a Charles costs money and takes time though. They do not spring fully formed from the head of Zeus, ready to secure your system. Clay From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jun 8 10:32:03 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:32:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, user at qtm.net wrote: > Hi All, > What makes a secure server? > Phil Phil, Bring your questions to the next meeting at Jeff's house, and we can probably help you out. Although that meeting will be even more about socializing and food than normal. In general: software is up to date, and has been thoroughly audited for security holes. Unnecessary services are turned off. Necessary services run with the minimal services necessary, and seek to shed privleges as soon as possible. If you really want to go all the way into security for the paranoid, start learning about OpenBSD and their philosophy towards security. While I do recommend their OS for setting up a secure server, it's their approach to creating a secure OS that is important to understand. The core developers are paranoid. They aren't paranoid delusionals, there really are people out to get them. So they have established a set of best-practices for keeping badlife out of their machines. Clay From user at qtm.net Mon Jun 8 11:01:18 2009 From: user at qtm.net (user at qtm.net) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:01:18 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server ubuntu Message-ID: Hi All, I tried kubuntu as a server using ssh and html. The server has 40gigs of other than my stuff. Next I tried the server ubuntu opening ssh. I would like to use html and a database program. Phil - From charles at bityard.net Mon Jun 8 13:34:43 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server In-Reply-To: <984d708a0906080623u5d38f2d7gdaec70170ed9d4b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <759D0039-D663-4A7E-AAD1-CA237E4505FF@qtm.net> <4A2C98E6.7050003@bityard.net> <13563.12.107.188.5.1244466694.squirrel@www.zifferent.net> <984d708a0906080623u5d38f2d7gdaec70170ed9d4b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A2D4BB3.8030404@bityard.net> I thought it was a pop quiz. Karl Schuttler wrote: > I believe he was being sarcastic... > > On 6/8/09, Dan DeSloover wrote: >> No. A mediocre admin can accidentally make a Debian server insecure in >> half the time it would take a good admin to do the same thing on purpose. >> >> Charles wrote: >>> user at qtm.net wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> What makes a secure server? >>>> Phil >>> Hmm. Debian? >>> >>> Charles >>> -- >>> http://bityard.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> linux-user mailing list >>> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >>> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >>> >> >> ---- >> Dan DeSloover >> dand at zifferent.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> -- http://bityard.net From clay at lazarusid.com Mon Jun 8 14:03:50 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:03:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Server ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, user at qtm.net wrote: > I tried kubuntu as a server using ssh and html. The server has 40gigs > of other than my stuff. Next I tried the server ubuntu opening ssh. I > would like to use html and a database program. Phil, the questions you're asking and the way that you are asking them just screams "Getting Hacked in 10 Easy Steps," the latest title from APress. What might be useful is to lay out a plan for what you want to accomplish with your server. Follow that up with a list of options for accomplishing that. Between your goals and your plan for accomplishing it there are going to be some big gaps. We can help you fill those gaps in. On a related note, I wonder if there might be some community interest in a workshop for people wanting to set up their own servers. There's enough knowledge in the group that we could handle half a dozen to a dozen participants. Find somebody who will let us have some classroom space for a Saturday, do an hour or two of classroom, then break down into small groups to work with individual goals. We could probably even send folks home with a FreeBSD or Linux disc. If there's interest in doing this, I can start looking for venues around Lansing. From frank.dolinar at comcast.net Mon Jun 8 14:17:23 2009 From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net (frank.dolinar at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GLLUG] Server ubuntu In-Reply-To: <2035380299.1949751244484860928.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <156057606.1951821244485043476.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi, Clay, I'd be interested in attending such a server workshop. I have some need for a server at home, and precious little knowledge about how to set on up properly. -Frank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090608/ce5a9ff3/attachment.html From dbosman at msu.edu Mon Jun 8 14:59:44 2009 From: dbosman at msu.edu (Don Bosman) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:59:44 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free racks advertised on Craig's list Lansing. Message-ID: <4A2D5FA0.60209@msu.edu> Not mine. Just a heck of a deal. Free http://lansing.craigslist.org/sys/1211021200.html Computer Racks (Lansing) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reply to: sale-na3a9-1211021200 at craigslist.org ^[Errors when replying to ads? ] Date: 2009-06-08, 10:34AM EDT I have about 20 empty computer racks that I need to get rid of. They are in great condition with casters. I am giving them away to anyone that wants them as long as you come pick them up this week. Please call 517-272-3314. From charles at bityard.net Mon Jun 8 18:34:29 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (charles at bityard.net) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GLLUG] Server ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59387.72.52.190.38.1244500469.squirrel@host.bityard.net> On Mon, June 8, 2009 2:03 pm, Clay Dowling wrote: > On a related note, I wonder if there might be some community interest in > a workshop for people wanting to set up their own servers. There's enough > knowledge in the group that we could handle half a dozen to a dozen > participants. Find somebody who will let us have some classroom space for > a Saturday, do an hour or two of classroom, then break down into small > groups to work with individual goals. > > We could probably even send folks home with a FreeBSD or Linux disc. > > If there's interest in doing this, I can start looking for venues around > Lansing. If it's on a Friday or Saturday, I would be up for it. -- http://bityard.net From watson.jason at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 18:58:30 2009 From: watson.jason at gmail.com (Jason Watson) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:58:30 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free racks advertised on Craig's list Lansing. In-Reply-To: <4A2D5FA0.60209@msu.edu> References: <4A2D5FA0.60209@msu.edu> Message-ID: FYI, the gentleman I spoke w/ on the phone said he wanted someone to take all 20 or it really wasn't worth his time and that he was probably just going to haul them to Friedland for scrap. Kind of a bummer since my wife would really kill me if I hauled in 20 server cabinets :) On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Don Bosman wrote: > Not mine. Just a heck of a deal. Free > > http://lansing.craigslist.org/sys/1211021200.html > > > ? ?Computer Racks (Lansing) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Reply to: sale-na3a9-1211021200 at craigslist.org > > ^[Errors when replying to ads? > ] > Date: 2009-06-08, 10:34AM EDT > > > I have about 20 empty computer racks that I need to get rid of. They are > in great condition with casters. I am giving them away to anyone that > wants them as long as you come pick them up this week. Please call > 517-272-3314. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From dbosman at msu.edu Mon Jun 8 19:42:25 2009 From: dbosman at msu.edu (Don Bosman) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:42:25 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free racks advertised on Craig's list Lansing. In-Reply-To: References: <4A2D5FA0.60209@msu.edu> Message-ID: <4A2DA1E1.3040700@msu.edu> Maybe twenty of us could show up at one time. Don Bosman Jason Watson wrote: > FYI, the gentleman I spoke w/ on the phone said he wanted someone to > take all 20 or it really wasn't worth his time and that he was > probably just going to haul them to Friedland for scrap. Kind of a > bummer since my wife would really kill me if I hauled in 20 server > cabinets :) > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Don Bosman wrote: > >> Not mine. Just a heck of a deal. Free >> >> http://lansing.craigslist.org/sys/1211021200.html >> >> >> Computer Racks (Lansing) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Reply to: sale-na3a9-1211021200 at craigslist.org >> >> ^[Errors when replying to ads? >> ] >> Date: 2009-06-08, 10:34AM EDT >> >> >> I have about 20 empty computer racks that I need to get rid of. They are >> in great condition with casters. I am giving them away to anyone that >> wants them as long as you come pick them up this week. Please call >> 517-272-3314. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind of a > bummer since my wife would really kill me if I hauled in 20 server > cabinets :) > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Don Bosman wrote: > >> Not mine. Just a heck of a deal. Free >> >> http://lansing.craigslist.org/sys/1211021200.html >> >> >> Computer Racks (Lansing) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Reply to: sale-na3a9-1211021200 at craigslist.org >> >> ^[Errors when replying to ads? >> ] >> Date: 2009-06-08, 10:34AM EDT >> >> >> I have about 20 empty computer racks that I need to get rid of. They are >> in great condition with casters. I am giving them away to anyone that >> wants them as long as you come pick them up this week. Please call >> 517-272-3314. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090608/9f1275a4/attachment.html From frank.dolinar at comcast.net Mon Jun 8 23:40:35 2009 From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net (frank.dolinar at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GLLUG] Free racks advertised on Craig's list Lansing. In-Reply-To: <4A2DC1FD.7010001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <366718467.2229321244518835488.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Peter, First, thank you for the effort and initiative. I'm interested in one of the racks, particularly if there is one that is not 6 feet tall. Please advise. -Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Christenson" To: "Jason Watson" Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 9:59:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free racks advertised on Craig's list Lansing. I tried to contact him but the post has been pulled..... I am willing to take them all off his hands. and if any GLLUG members want one I'll be happy to give them one. (do to time) I'll call him tomorrow and see what I can arrange. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090609/4daa24ae/attachment.html From c.e.tower at gmail.com Tue Jun 9 17:00:13 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:00:13 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Saturday Meetings Message-ID: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> I didn't see any negative comments about meeting at Gone Wired Cafe on Saturdays, so let's plan on meeting there on June 27th, say beginning at 1:00 p.m. Ordinarily we'll plan to meet there on the first Saturday of each month, but July's first Saturday is the 4th. Does anyone have any objections/better suggestions? On a side note, I was trying to find their website to see if they are open on Saturdays and for what hours. I found their MySpace page and another website's entry on them, which indicate they're open from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m., but either set works for us. I couldn't find their website at the links on those "reference" pages, though; nothing came up but one of those pages that say "it couldn't be found but maybe you meant one of these other pages." Can anyone else find their website and actually view it? I'll let you find the URL, in case what works is actually something different than the ones I found. One would expect the link on their MySpace page would be correct, though. -- Chick From marr at copper.net Tue Jun 9 19:37:02 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:37:02 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Saturday Meetings In-Reply-To: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> References: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200906091937.02614.marr@copper.net> On Tuesday 09 June 2009 5:00:13pm Chick Tower wrote: > Can anyone else find their website and actually view it? Their website used to be http://www.gonewiredlansing.com and it was valid back in Apr 2006 according to my links. But that site appears to be dead now. I couldn't find a valid website in my brief search. Odd that a business centered on wireless Internet access wouldn't have a website.... Bill Marr From charles at bityard.net Wed Jun 10 00:57:20 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:57:20 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Saturday Meetings In-Reply-To: <200906091937.02614.marr@copper.net> References: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> <200906091937.02614.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: <4A2F3D30.7070307@bityard.net> Marr wrote: > On Tuesday 09 June 2009 5:00:13pm Chick Tower wrote: >> Can anyone else find their website and actually view it? > > Their website used to be http://www.gonewiredlansing.com and it was valid back > in Apr 2006 according to my links. But that site appears to be dead now. I > couldn't find a valid website in my brief search. > > Odd that a business centered on wireless Internet access wouldn't have a > website.... My findings indicate that the myspace page is the closest thing they have to a home page. The last login date is May 31, so I would presume that the information (including business hours) in the About Me section is up to date. The owners probably thought having an account on a social network site was more valuable than a static home page, and they're probably right given their target demographic. Probably cheaper, too. Charles -- http://bityard.net From clay at lazarusid.com Wed Jun 10 08:21:17 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:21:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GLLUG] Saturday Meetings In-Reply-To: <200906091937.02614.marr@copper.net> References: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> <200906091937.02614.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Marr wrote: > Odd that a business centered on wireless Internet access wouldn't have a > website.... Not that odd. A few of us were in there two or three weeks ago and the place looked dead. I don't think they are doing especially well. Clay From clay at lazarusid.com Thu Jun 11 14:36:34 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:36:34 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Reminder of Barbecue Tonight Message-ID: <20090611143634.12187kmx691mb6b6@mail.lazarusid.com> For those who haven't been paying attention, or haven't been to meetings: http://www.gllug.org/node/94 We're grilling at Jeff's. Bring a dish to pass. I'm bringing a 12 pack of Vernors. -- Online RPG Campaign Planning http://www.rpg-campaign.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From david at ramaboo.com Thu Jun 11 16:35:09 2009 From: david at ramaboo.com (David Singer) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:35:09 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Reminder of Barbecue Tonight In-Reply-To: <20090611143634.12187kmx691mb6b6@mail.lazarusid.com> References: <20090611143634.12187kmx691mb6b6@mail.lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <80324a260906111335l46e30f7bhe9d13c537e233802@mail.gmail.com> I am bringing macaroni salad and mashed photoatos. Ill have some beer to share as well. David On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Clay Dowling wrote: > For those who haven't been paying attention, or haven't been to meetings: > > http://www.gllug.org/node/94 > > We're grilling at Jeff's. ?Bring a dish to pass. > > I'm bringing a 12 pack of Vernors. > > -- > Online RPG Campaign Planning > http://www.rpg-campaign.com > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 12 11:03:14 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:03:14 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Pastured chickens & Eggs Message-ID: <20090612110314.844464jr4a112y42@mail.lazarusid.com> Last night we talked a bit about pastured chickens and eggs. A co-worker has a fair number of chickens he's raising for fall slaughter, and if you want some you can put your order in now to reserve your birds. These birds arne't fed antibiotics or growth hormones. They scavenge a lot of bugs that most commercial chickens don't get, and the extra protein in their diet makes for a very different flavor. He's selling them for $2/pound, with the average bird being 5 pounds. I've eaten these birds before. The pasturing makes for a leaner, more flavorful meat. If they're roasted with some moisture, such as the beer-butt chicken cooking style, you get a very tender bird with a lot of flavor. I have four birds on order that should be showing up soon, so I figure I'll grill a couple for GLLUG in July. You can try the birds then and see if it's something you want to buy. Clay -- Online RPG Campaign Planning http://www.rpg-campaign.com From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 12 11:20:29 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:20:29 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Pastured chickens & Eggs In-Reply-To: <20090612110314.844464jr4a112y42@mail.lazarusid.com> References: <20090612110314.844464jr4a112y42@mail.lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <20090612112029.17694skdnxth3epp@mail.lazarusid.com> Quoting Clay Dowling : > He's selling them for $2/pound, with the average bird being 5 pounds. Err, that was not the correct price. That's the price I'm paying for my current birds. The fall batch is a different breed, with different growth characteristics. The birds I'm getting are called a Cornish Cross, and apparently that's the same breed we buy at the grocery store. I don't know what the fall batch is, or how that affects the taste (or price). Clay -- Online RPG Campaign Planning http://www.rpg-campaign.com From mortel at cyber-nos.com Sun Jun 14 18:54:54 2009 From: mortel at cyber-nos.com (Stanley C. Mortel) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:54:54 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Saturday Meetings In-Reply-To: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> References: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A357FBE.5040309@cyber-nos.com> I've been out of town for awhile. Is the idea to REPLACE the Thursday meetings or to have one on Saturday in addition to the weekly one? I do like the idea of going back to the Gone Wired Cafe. I liked it there. More social. Will we try to keep the Library location for when someone has a presentation, etc? Stan Chick Tower wrote: > I didn't see any negative comments about meeting at Gone Wired Cafe on > Saturdays, so let's plan on meeting there on June 27th, say beginning at > 1:00 p.m. Ordinarily we'll plan to meet there on the first Saturday of > each month, but July's first Saturday is the 4th. Does anyone have any > objections/better suggestions? > > On a side note, I was trying to find their website to see if they are > open on Saturdays and for what hours. I found their MySpace page and > another website's entry on them, which indicate they're open from 8:00 > a.m. to 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m., but either set works for > us. I couldn't find their website at the links on those "reference" > pages, though; nothing came up but one of those pages that say "it > couldn't be found but maybe you meant one of these other pages." Can > anyone else find their website and actually view it? I'll let you find > the URL, in case what works is actually something different than the > ones I found. One would expect the link on their MySpace page would be > correct, though. > From clay at lazarusid.com Sun Jun 14 19:07:23 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:07:23 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Saturday Meetings In-Reply-To: <4A357FBE.5040309@cyber-nos.com> References: <4A2ECD5D.3030200@gmail.com> <4A357FBE.5040309@cyber-nos.com> Message-ID: <4A3582AB.7060704@lazarusid.com> Stanley C. Mortel wrote: > I've been out of town for awhile. Is the idea to REPLACE the Thursday > meetings or to have one on Saturday in addition to the weekly one? > > I do like the idea of going back to the Gone Wired Cafe. I liked it > there. More social. Will we try to keep the Library location for when > someone has a presentation, etc? > The Saturday meeting would be in addition to the midweek meetings at the library. Basically to give us a chance to get together with people who can't make the midweek meetings. Clay From mortel at cyber-nos.com Sun Jun 14 22:07:42 2009 From: mortel at cyber-nos.com (Stanley C. Mortel) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:07:42 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: References: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498EA3@dtwcoexmbx1> <236199038.194531244054106734.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498F02@dtwcoexmbx1> Message-ID: <4A35ACEE.9030209@cyber-nos.com> I propose that we have an equipment swap of some sort. I'm sure that many of us have useful stuff that needs a home. How about setting a time and place, everyone brings what they want to give away for free, and we wander around and take what strikes our individual fancy. Maybe we could even set it up so that it is an "open to the public" event (after GLLUG members have first choice). That might attract some attention and maybe even get a few new members. Anyone who brings real junk gets to cart it back home. Stan Richard Houser wrote: > I've got a random closet full of parts, too. Is there any interest in > getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our own > not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, Mark wrote: > >> Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, >> but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos >> that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes. They run Windows XP just >> fine. Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. >> >> The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY. I think like 16U maybe? or 12? . The >> first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU. Both Xeon. They both >> have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth >> money). Thus the CPUs have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. >> Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for >> the disks) They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high >> availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in >> a day - but they would not be super fast. I think I have at least one >> person who is gonna take the Dell servers. The 9gb disk is just the only >> LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install >> VMWARE ESX on it I think. Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there >> by a frayed SCSI cable but functional >> ________________________________ >> From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: Lachniet, Mark >> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware >> >> Mark, >> I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, >> processor, with or without memory? >> And I may have a use for the Xeon server. How big is the box? Is the >> 9Gb disk part of that or separate? How noisy is the power supply? >> >> Please advise. >> >> Thanks, >> Frank >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark Lachniet" >> To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware >> >> I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. >> A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to >> about 1gig in speed. Most of them need PC 3200 memory. They all work. I >> also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). In addition a >> few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. More ribbon cables >> than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. I also >> have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of >> memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. They are too big for my >> rack but they work. I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping >> these beasts exceeds their value >> >> Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090614/8433ec9a/attachment.html From crazytales at gmail.com Sun Jun 14 22:32:35 2009 From: crazytales at gmail.com (Chris Chan) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:32:35 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware In-Reply-To: <4A35ACEE.9030209@cyber-nos.com> References: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498EA3@dtwcoexmbx1> <236199038.194531244054106734.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46129A498F02@dtwcoexmbx1> <4A35ACEE.9030209@cyber-nos.com> Message-ID: <4467498d0906141932v5e84f81bh6c3e0fb8e4c64b91@mail.gmail.com> That's a great idea... definitely a great way to get rid of all my crap in my cupboards. Mom wants it gone. On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Stanley C. Mortel wrote: > I propose that we have an equipment swap of some sort.? I'm sure that many > of us have useful stuff that needs a home.? How about setting a time and > place, everyone brings what they want to give away for free, and we wander > around and take what strikes our individual fancy.? Maybe we could even set > it up so that it is an "open to the public" event (after GLLUG members have > first choice).? That might attract some attention and maybe even get a few > new members.? Anyone who brings real junk gets to cart it back home. > > Stan > > Richard Houser wrote: > > I've got a random closet full of parts, too. Is there any interest in > getting together some weekend (perhaps in the fall) and having our own > not-so-junkpile event to build (donate?) a bunch of usable systems? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Lachniet, Mark > wrote: > > > Hey I'm too lazy to do research and pull off all the cooling fans and stuff, > but I can say that I have at least 2-3 functional motherboard and CPU combos > that are fast enough to run decent Linux boxes.? They run Windows XP just > fine.? Come over to my house and you are welcome to poke around at them. > > The Dell servers are BIG and NOISY.? I think like 16U maybe?? or 12??.? The > first is 2x650mhz CPU, the second is 4x700mhz CPU.? Both Xeon.? They both > have memory between 2gb and 4gb (actually that memory is probably worth > money).? Thus the CPUs?have a huge amount of Cache, but a low clock speed. > Each one has like 3 power supplies, the ability to do RAID (but no rails for > the disks)? They would be perfect for a web server that needed to have high > availability - you could get a RAID 1 server set up with 3 power supplies in > a day - but they would not be super fast.? I think I have at least one > person who is gonna take the Dell servers.? The 9gb disk is just the only > LVD SCSI hard drive I had laying around - I threw it in there and install > VMWARE ESX on it I think.? Its not even properly mounted, just hanging there > by a frayed SCSI cable but functional > ________________________________ > From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net [mailto:frank.dolinar at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM > To: Lachniet, Mark > Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > Mark, > ?? I'm interested in knowing more about the motherboards, e.g. make, model, > processor, with or without memory? > ?? And I may have a use for the Xeon server.? How big is the box?? Is the > 9Gb disk part of that or separate?? How noisy is the power supply? > > ?? Please advise. > > Thanks, > Frank > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Lachniet" > To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:57:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [GLLUG] Free hardware > > I have some random computer hardware that I will give away to a good home. > ?A few working motherboard/cpu/cooling fan combos - generally Athlon up to > about 1gig in speed. ?Most of them need PC 3200 memory. ?They all work. ?I > also have a big stack of black Dell CD-ROM drives (not DVD). ?In addition a > few misc. items if anyone wants to dig through my crap. ?More ribbon cables > than you can shake a stick at, old video and network cards, etc. ?I also > have some BIG A$$ Dell servers - including one Quad-core Xeon with 2gb of > memory and a 9gb disk and three power supplies. ?They are too big for my > rack but they work. ?I would sell them on ebay but the cost of shipping > these beasts exceeds their value > > Send me an email if you wanna get dibs on any of this stuff > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > From charles at bityard.net Fri Jun 19 17:47:43 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (charles at bityard.net) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GLLUG] she's here! Message-ID: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> At around 9:56PM Wednesday night, Kim and I brought into this world one cute little bundle of awesome named Amelia Lynn. Mom and Baby are doing terrific and are back home already. Adorable pics here: http://host.bityard.net/~img/amelia/ -- http://bityard.net From rexykik at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 17:53:21 2009 From: rexykik at gmail.com (Karl Schuttler) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:53:21 -0700 Subject: [GLLUG] she's here! In-Reply-To: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> References: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> Message-ID: <984d708a0906191453p5f91281du3119d5ac46fb73d1@mail.gmail.com> gratz On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > > > At around 9:56PM Wednesday night, Kim and I brought into this world one > cute little bundle of awesome named Amelia Lynn. Mom and Baby are doing > terrific and are back home already. > > Adorable pics here: http://host.bityard.net/~img/amelia/ > > -- > http://bityard.net > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From marr at copper.net Fri Jun 19 18:18:26 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:18:26 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] she's here! In-Reply-To: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> References: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> Message-ID: <200906191818.27304.marr@copper.net> On Friday 19 June 2009 5:47:43pm charles at bityard.net wrote: > At around 9:56PM Wednesday night, Kim and I brought into this world one > cute little bundle of awesome named Amelia Lynn. Mom and Baby are doing > terrific and are back home already. Congratulations! So when will she be compiling her first Linux kernel? Age 3? ;^) Best wishes to you and your growing family, Charles! Regards, Bill Marr From currentlyunnameddj at gmail.com Fri Jun 19 21:25:03 2009 From: currentlyunnameddj at gmail.com (Ariel Lonchar) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:25:03 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] she's here! In-Reply-To: <200906191818.27304.marr@copper.net> References: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> <200906191818.27304.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: <93f068b10906191825k5819921dna11b0c3e812ab756@mail.gmail.com> Congrats! Now say goodbye to sleep for the next 18 years ;) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Marr wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2009 5:47:43pm charles at bityard.net wrote: > > At around 9:56PM Wednesday night, Kim and I brought into this world one > > cute little bundle of awesome named Amelia Lynn. Mom and Baby are doing > > terrific and are back home already. > > Congratulations! > > So when will she be compiling her first Linux kernel? Age 3? ;^) > > Best wishes to you and your growing family, Charles! > > Regards, > Bill Marr > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090619/8dc157f8/attachment.html From tigner at msu.edu Sat Jun 20 05:12:40 2009 From: tigner at msu.edu (Barry Tigner) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:12:40 +0000 Subject: [GLLUG] she's here! In-Reply-To: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> References: <40900.69.89.101.109.1245448063.squirrel@mail.bityard.net> Message-ID: <1245489160.2548.1.camel@home.net> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:47 -0400, charles at bityard.net wrote: > > At around 9:56PM Wednesday night, Kim and I brought into this world one > cute little bundle of awesome named Amelia Lynn. Mom and Baby are doing > terrific and are back home already. > > Adorable pics here: http://host.bityard.net/~img/amelia/ > Wonderful news, cherish and enjoy. Best wishes to you and yours. From c.e.tower at gmail.com Tue Jun 23 22:37:07 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:37:07 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs Message-ID: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> Does anyone know how to connect an iPod Touch to a Linux PC? I'm trying to do it, and I thought it would be just like connecting a thumb drive, but it isn't. The following are the entries in dmesg after plugging in the two devices: Plugging in iPod usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices Plugging in thumb drive usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. usb-storage: device found at 3 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access MicroAdv QuickiDrive128M 2.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 256000 512-byte hardware sectors: (131 MB/125 MiB) sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 256000 512-byte hardware sectors: (131 MB/125 MiB) sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through sdb: sdb1 sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete I see that there are a lot more entries for the thumb drive, including what I would attach to, /dev/sdb1. Is there something that's failing to initiate for the iPod? If so, does anyone know what's missing? I would appreciate any advice any of you can offer. -- Chick From eduardo at cesconetto.com Tue Jun 23 22:51:01 2009 From: eduardo at cesconetto.com (eduardo cesconetto) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:01 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> Message-ID: jailbreak it and use SSH to send content to it ? Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com - www.cesconetto.com On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > Does anyone know how to connect an iPod Touch to a Linux PC? I'm > trying > to do it, and I thought it would be just like connecting a thumb > drive, > but it isn't. The following are the entries in dmesg after plugging > in > the two devices: > > Plugging in iPod > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 > usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices > > Plugging in thumb drive > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 > usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices > usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage > USB Mass Storage support registered. > usb-storage: device found at 3 > usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning > scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access MicroAdv QuickiDrive128M 2.00 PQ: 0 > ANSI: 2 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 256000 512-byte hardware sectors: (131 MB/125 MiB) > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 256000 512-byte hardware sectors: (131 MB/125 MiB) > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through > sdb: sdb1 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk > sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 > usb-storage: device scan complete > > I see that there are a lot more entries for the thumb drive, including > what I would attach to, /dev/sdb1. Is there something that's > failing to > initiate for the iPod? If so, does anyone know what's missing? I > would > appreciate any advice any of you can offer. > -- > > Chick > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090623/79267562/attachment.html From c.e.tower at gmail.com Tue Jun 23 23:05:16 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:05:16 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4197EC.2050507@gmail.com> It is jail-broken, Eduardo. I can't send anything to it until I can mount it. I can't figure out how to mount it. Chick eduardo cesconetto wrote: > jailbreak it and use SSH to send content to it > > ? Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com > - www.cesconetto.com > From rexykik at gmail.com Tue Jun 23 23:16:31 2009 From: rexykik at gmail.com (Karl Schuttler) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:16:31 -0700 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <4A4197EC.2050507@gmail.com> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> <4A4197EC.2050507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <984d708a0906232016y41cc09d1ve8885f421a2d9713@mail.gmail.com> I think the assumption was that you have a wireless network. Connect both devices on your wifi, and then use scp from your iphone to your computer and pull back the files. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > It is jail-broken, Eduardo. ?I can't send anything to it until I can > mount it. ?I can't figure out how to mount it. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Chick > > > eduardo cesconetto wrote: >> jailbreak it and use SSH to send content to it >> >> ? Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com >> - www.cesconetto.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From 433411 at gmail.com Tue Jun 23 23:18:15 2009 From: 433411 at gmail.com (Fidel Dominguez-Valero) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:18:15 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <4A4197EC.2050507@gmail.com> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> <4A4197EC.2050507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A419AF7.8080706@gmail.com> Chick Tower wrote: > It is jail-broken, Eduardo. I can't send anything to it until I can > mount it. I can't figure out how to mount it. > > Chick > > > eduardo cesconetto wrote: > >> jailbreak it and use SSH to send content to it >> >> ? Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com >> - www.cesconetto.com >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > Gnomad From eduardo at cesconetto.com Tue Jun 23 23:36:38 2009 From: eduardo at cesconetto.com (eduardo cesconetto) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:36:38 -0500 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <984d708a0906232016y41cc09d1ve8885f421a2d9713@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> <4A4197EC.2050507@gmail.com> <984d708a0906232016y41cc09d1ve8885f421a2d9713@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5470EBCE-F8EF-4614-9855-593B2CE0FF8C@cesconetto.com> you got it Karl, and because this is a public forum, I have to stay away from this conversation. :) ? Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com - www.cesconetto.com On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Karl Schuttler wrote: > I think the assumption was that you have a wireless network. Connect > both devices on your wifi, and then use scp from your iphone to your > computer and pull back the files. > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chick Tower > wrote: >> It is jail-broken, Eduardo. I can't send anything to it until I can >> mount it. I can't figure out how to mount it. >> >> Chick >> >> >> eduardo cesconetto wrote: >>> jailbreak it and use SSH to send content to it >>> >>> ? Eduardo Cesconetto - eduardo at cesconetto.com >>> - www.cesconetto.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-user mailing list >> linux-user at egr.msu.edu >> http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090623/ffbb52f4/attachment.html From marr at copper.net Wed Jun 24 10:51:34 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:51:34 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200906241051.35133.marr@copper.net> On Tuesday 23 June 2009 10:37:07pm Chick Tower wrote: > Does anyone know how to connect an iPod Touch to a Linux PC? I don't own an iPod, Chick, but I've been saving Linux-related links for many years on the chance that one day I might. Here's a few of the ones that are still valid (i.e. website/page is still available) and might help: Using an iPod in Linux May 26th, 2005 by Bert Hayes in Linux Journal http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8160 GNUpod Manage your iPod Adrian Ulrich http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html Experiments with an iPod By Awasthi Nirendra http://linuxgazette.net/120/nirendra.html gtkpod "a platform independent Graphical User Interface for Apple's iPod using GTK2" http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html YamiPod "a freeware application to efficiently manage your iPod under Mac OS X, Windows and Linux." http://www.yamipod.com Disclaimer: I have no idea if these apply to the iPod Touch. HTH... Good luck! Regards, Bill Marr From 433411 at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 10:55:34 2009 From: 433411 at gmail.com (Fidel Dominguez-Valero) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:55:34 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <200906241051.35133.marr@copper.net> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> <200906241051.35133.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: <4A423E66.9010809@gmail.com> Marr wrote: > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 10:37:07pm Chick Tower wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to connect an iPod Touch to a Linux PC? >> > > I don't own an iPod, Chick, but I've been saving Linux-related links for many > years on the chance that one day I might. > > Here's a few of the ones that are still valid (i.e. website/page is still > available) and might help: > > Using an iPod in Linux > May 26th, 2005 by Bert Hayes in Linux Journal > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8160 > > GNUpod > Manage your iPod > Adrian Ulrich > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html > > Experiments with an iPod > By Awasthi Nirendra > > http://linuxgazette.net/120/nirendra.html > > gtkpod > "a platform independent Graphical User Interface for Apple's iPod using GTK2" > > http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html > > YamiPod > "a freeware application to efficiently manage your iPod under Mac OS X, > Windows and Linux." > > http://www.yamipod.com > > Disclaimer: I have no idea if these apply to the iPod Touch. > > HTH... Good luck! > > Regards, > Bill Marr > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > > sudo apt-get install gnomad From rick at divinesymphony.net Thu Jun 25 00:53:56 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:53:56 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Connecting iPods to PCs In-Reply-To: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> References: <4A419153.3040008@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chick, I might be able to make the meeting tonight (50/50 chance). If you bring your equipment with you, I can try to see if it works like my nano 2nd Gen easy enough (via libgpod). On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Chick Tower wrote: > Does anyone know how to connect an iPod Touch to a Linux PC? ?I'm trying > to do it, and I thought it would be just like connecting a thumb drive, > but it isn't. ?The following are the entries in dmesg after plugging in > the two devices: > > Plugging in iPod > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 > usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices > > Plugging in thumb drive > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 > usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices > usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage > USB Mass Storage support registered. > usb-storage: device found at 3 > usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning > scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ? ? MicroAdv QuickiDrive128M ?2.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 256000 512-byte hardware sectors: (131 MB/125 MiB) > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 256000 512-byte hardware sectors: (131 MB/125 MiB) > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through > ?sdb: sdb1 > sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk > sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 > usb-storage: device scan complete > > I see that there are a lot more entries for the thumb drive, including > what I would attach to, /dev/sdb1. ?Is there something that's failing to > initiate for the iPod? ?If so, does anyone know what's missing? ?I would > appreciate any advice any of you can offer. > -- > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Chick > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From c.e.tower at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 22:56:10 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:56:10 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Neoprene Laptop Cases Message-ID: <4A4438CA.6070802@gmail.com> If anyone wants one of these, the Meijer's across from the Lansing Mall has several on sale for under $6.50. They are for 15.4" laptops. You can find them back by the pet supplies, out in the main aisle. -- Chick From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 26 10:15:15 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:15:15 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Classes Message-ID: <20090626101515.73752xmq8w9c8ws3@mail.lazarusid.com> We talked about our server classes last night at the GLLUG meeting, and I wanted to pop something on the list today to get people around the idea and start scheduling it. The plan is for four classes, to take people from base installation to actually running a server. My proposed schedule: Saturday, July 11th - 1pm: Installfest, concentrating on Ubuntu Server. Lani has agreed to lead this. Additional hands to help people with questions would be appreciated. Thursday, July 16th - 6:30pm : Introduction to the command line. Jeff Lawton to lead this (Clay Dowling to act as his second). We should also be prepared for installfest follow ups here, so other people on hand would be good, to take people aside and work with them one on one. Saturday, July 18th - 1pm: Basic networking and system hardening, to be lead by Charles Ulrich (Marshal Newrock to act as his second). Saturday, July 25th - 1pm: LAMP Server workshop. As many volunteers as we can get. Clay Dowling, Charles Ulrich at minimum have volunteered to participate. Must be comfortable working with and gently leading people who may be weak on technical issues. If I named you in the schedule, please let me know if it will work for you, or what corrections are needed to make it work. Anybody else with suggestions please let me know ASAP. I'm going to try to put together a press release and possibly audio or video that we can submit to local media by the middle of next week. Anybody with audio or video production skills I'd love it if you could contact me. Basically, everything we can do to make this story easier for local media to cover improves our chances. We'll need to keep pushing material out to the press every week, so we don't need to have all of this assembled at once. Thoughts on the press packet: 1. Standard press release, 250-500 words (shorter being preferred). Make it press ready. 2. Good high-res photos of a Linux install fest. We'll simulate this by getting a few people with laptops, and a few people helping them. I figure three of each category. The more women we can get in the picture, the more it will help us by appearing more woman-friendly and less like guys who live in their mom's basement. Don't worry if you're not photogenic - the more like the average woman you look, the more comfortable that will make our potential audience. 3. Audio interviews or sound clips, for use on the radio. If we could get a clip on WKAR in their local coverage, that would reach a lot of people. 4. Video of an installfest (ideally from the Jully 11th session). If we can get people to say on tape how helpful we were, it's a great recruiting tool for later sessions. Let me know if you can help out with any of this. Clay -- Online RPG Campaign Planning http://www.rpg-campaign.com From lrmeredith at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 10:35:21 2009 From: lrmeredith at gmail.com (Lani Meredith) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:35:21 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Classes In-Reply-To: <20090626101515.73752xmq8w9c8ws3@mail.lazarusid.com> References: <20090626101515.73752xmq8w9c8ws3@mail.lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <7acc36fb0906260735x74737753naef4303c91961f68@mail.gmail.com> I have no problem with the proposed schedule. Any suggestions would be welcome, since I've never taught a class before. Lani On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Clay Dowling wrote: > We talked about our server classes last night at the GLLUG meeting, > and I wanted to pop something on the list today to get people around > the idea and start scheduling it. > > The plan is for four classes, to take people from base installation to > actually running a server. > > My proposed schedule: > > > Saturday, July 11th - 1pm: Installfest, concentrating on Ubuntu > Server. ?Lani has agreed to lead this. ?Additional hands to help > people with questions would be appreciated. > > Thursday, July 16th - 6:30pm : Introduction to the command line. ?Jeff > Lawton to lead this (Clay Dowling to act as his second). ?We should > also be prepared for installfest follow ups here, so other people on > hand would be good, to take people aside and work with them one on one. > > Saturday, July 18th - 1pm: Basic networking and system hardening, to > be lead by Charles Ulrich (Marshal Newrock to act as his second). > > Saturday, July 25th - 1pm: LAMP Server workshop. ?As many volunteers > as we can get. ?Clay Dowling, Charles Ulrich at minimum have > volunteered to participate. ?Must be comfortable working with and > gently leading people who may be weak on technical issues. > > If I named you in the schedule, please let me know if it will work for > you, or what corrections are needed to make it work. ?Anybody else > with suggestions please let me know ASAP. > > I'm going to try to put together a press release and possibly audio or > video that we can submit to local media by the middle of next week. > Anybody with audio or video production skills I'd love it if you could > contact me. ?Basically, everything we can do to make this story easier > for local media to cover improves our chances. ?We'll need to keep > pushing material out to the press every week, so we don't need to have > all of this assembled at once. > > Thoughts on the press packet: > > 1. Standard press release, 250-500 words (shorter being preferred). > Make it press ready. > > 2. Good high-res photos of a Linux install fest. ?We'll simulate this > by getting a few people with laptops, and a few people helping them. > I figure three of each category. ?The more women we can get in the > picture, the more it will help us by appearing more woman-friendly and > less like guys who live in their mom's basement. ?Don't worry if > you're not photogenic - the more like the average woman you look, the > more comfortable that will make our potential audience. > > 3. Audio interviews or sound clips, for use on the radio. ?If we could > get a clip on WKAR in their local coverage, that would reach a lot of > people. > > 4. Video of an installfest (ideally from the Jully 11th session). ?If > we can get people to say on tape how helpful we were, it's a great > recruiting tool for later sessions. > > Let me know if you can help out with any of this. > > Clay > > -- > Online RPG Campaign Planning > http://www.rpg-campaign.com > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user From clay at lazarusid.com Fri Jun 26 13:56:45 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:56:45 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Photos Message-ID: <20090626135645.124425lw9s8plp7h@mail.lazarusid.com> I was going to stage a photo for our press release, but it occurs to me that there are older photos around of GLLUG events. Who has these? At one point there was a CD floating around of pictures that Reba took, but I don't know where that has gone to (maybe I have it even?). Charles, weren't you collecting pictures at one point? Clay -- Online RPG Campaign Planning http://www.rpg-campaign.com From mlachniet at analysts.com Fri Jun 26 14:00:56 2009 From: mlachniet at analysts.com (Lachniet, Mark) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:00:56 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] FYI: LCC doesn't want our hardware :) In-Reply-To: <20090626135645.124425lw9s8plp7h@mail.lazarusid.com> References: <20090626135645.124425lw9s8plp7h@mail.lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <13C5026E000864419A269D7DC5EBAB46138053EE51@dtwcoexmbx1> I called one of my contacts over at LCC - Professor Joseph Werner - and he wasn't too interested in donations of old hardware. Can't say I blame him, if I was still working at Holt Schools I probably wouldn't take it either. More trouble than its worth. On the bright side, he may be signing up for our listserve! 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From charles at bityard.net Fri Jun 26 23:18:42 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:18:42 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Classes In-Reply-To: <20090626101515.73752xmq8w9c8ws3@mail.lazarusid.com> References: <20090626101515.73752xmq8w9c8ws3@mail.lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <4A458F92.9060905@bityard.net> Clay Dowling wrote: > We talked about our server classes last night at the GLLUG meeting, > and I wanted to pop something on the list today to get people around > the idea and start scheduling it. > > The plan is for four classes, to take people from base installation to > actually running a server. > > My proposed schedule: > > > Saturday, July 11th - 1pm: Installfest, concentrating on Ubuntu > Server. Lani has agreed to lead this. Additional hands to help > people with questions would be appreciated. Won't be able to make it to this one. I'll be at a wedding. The others, I can most likely do, but I'll be sure to give advance notice if not. [snip] > 4. Video of an installfest (ideally from the Jully 11th session). If > we can get people to say on tape how helpful we were, it's a great > recruiting tool for later sessions. I thought I had the nightly news clip from Software Freedom Day a couple years back, but I can't find it anywhere now. If it turns up, and can be of use, I'll let you know. Charles -- http://bityard.net From charles at bityard.net Sat Jun 27 00:00:18 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:00:18 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Photos In-Reply-To: <20090626135645.124425lw9s8plp7h@mail.lazarusid.com> References: <20090626135645.124425lw9s8plp7h@mail.lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <4A459952.7090406@bityard.net> Clay Dowling wrote: > I was going to stage a photo for our press release, but it occurs to > me that there are older photos around of GLLUG events. Who has these? > At one point there was a CD floating around of pictures that Reba > took, but I don't know where that has gone to (maybe I have it even?). > > Charles, weren't you collecting pictures at one point? Yes, but the collection is less than extensive. I just browsed my collection and most are just "fun" pics. There were only two that I thought might work for this venture: http://host.bityard.net/~img/misc/100-1814.jpg http://host.bityard.net/~img/misc/img_1318.jpg BTW, if anyone wants me to zip up my complete collection of GLLUG and Penguicon pics and post them online, just holler. Charles -- http://bityard.net From clay at lazarusid.com Sat Jun 27 08:50:29 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:50:29 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Photos In-Reply-To: <4A459952.7090406@bityard.net> References: <20090626135645.124425lw9s8plp7h@mail.lazarusid.com> <4A459952.7090406@bityard.net> Message-ID: <4A461595.8010108@lazarusid.com> Charles wrote: > http://host.bityard.net/~img/misc/100-1814.jpg > http://host.bityard.net/~img/misc/img_1318.jpg 1318 is awesome, and exactly what I want. Clay From clay at lazarusid.com Sat Jun 27 08:58:32 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:58:32 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Classes In-Reply-To: <4A458F92.9060905@bityard.net> References: <20090626101515.73752xmq8w9c8ws3@mail.lazarusid.com> <4A458F92.9060905@bityard.net> Message-ID: <4A461778.9020907@lazarusid.com> Charles wrote: > Won't be able to make it to this one. I'll be at a wedding. The > others, I can most likely do, but I'll be sure to give advance notice > if not. That's okay. One thing we're very good at is working as a group more than a collection of individuals. So while it would be nice if we could have you there, somebody else will take up the slack. That is also the computer lounge at Penguicon works so well when GLLUG runs it. > > I thought I had the nightly news clip from Software Freedom Day a > couple years back, but I can't find it anywhere now. If it turns up, > and can be of use, I'll let you know. We can't use that in a generic sense, but I can mention it in my release to WILX, which is the station who sent the camera man. Maybe other stations can ask them for the footage. Clay From c.e.tower at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 17:30:13 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:30:13 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Our First Saturday Meeting Message-ID: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> I don't recall anyone saying Saturday meetings are a stupid idea. I checked, and at least three people wrote e-mails saying it was a great idea. It's a good thing I wore my Thunderbird t-shirt, because the one other person there for the meeting was new, so he could tell I might be a Linux user. Is there anyone who would like to have a meeting at Gone Wired on Saturday, August 1st, at 1:00 p.m.? Gone Wired has Facebook and MySpace pages, and their website is http://gonewiredcafe.net/ -- Chick From marr at copper.net Sat Jun 27 18:04:31 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:04:31 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Our First Saturday Meeting In-Reply-To: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> References: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200906271804.31290.marr@copper.net> On Saturday 27 June 2009 5:30:13pm Chick Tower wrote: > I don't recall anyone saying Saturday meetings are a stupid idea. I > checked, and at least three people wrote e-mails saying it was a great > idea. It's a good thing I wore my Thunderbird t-shirt, because the one > other person there for the meeting was new, so he could tell I might be > a Linux user. Crap... I totally forgot about that. I'm surprised there was no talk (or maybe even a reminder) on the mailing list. Of course, with only 2 people there, that's probably why... ;^) Personally, I would still be interested in the infrequent (for me) Saturday meeting, but to be worth the drive, there's got to be a bit more participation. I know... chicken and egg. :^( Bill Marr From charles at bityard.net Sat Jun 27 21:24:14 2009 From: charles at bityard.net (Charles) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:24:14 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Our First Saturday Meeting In-Reply-To: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> References: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A46C63E.8060208@bityard.net> Chick Tower wrote: > I don't recall anyone saying Saturday meetings are a stupid idea. I > checked, and at least three people wrote e-mails saying it was a great > idea. It's a good thing I wore my Thunderbird t-shirt, because the one > other person there for the meeting was new, so he could tell I might be > a Linux user. > > Is there anyone who would like to have a meeting at Gone Wired on > Saturday, August 1st, at 1:00 p.m.? Gone Wired has Facebook and MySpace > pages, and their website is http://gonewiredcafe.net/ I had every intention to go but I ended up with a schedule conflict at the last minute. We've been trying to get a friend of the family to come down and cap our chimney since March and he notified us yesterday that today was the only day he could do it. Count me in for August unless something else crops up again. Charles -- http://bityard.net From clay at lazarusid.com Sat Jun 27 22:17:18 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:17:18 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Class Summary Message-ID: <4A46D2AE.1010609@lazarusid.com> These are my proposed summaries for the classes. Let me know if I should make any changes. Changes are good. These descriptions will appear in fliers and the press releases. GLLUG Server Series Install Fest Lani Meredith and several experienced volunteers will assist participants as they install and configure Ubuntu Linux on their computers. No prior experience with Linux or UNIX is required. Participants should bring a computer and necessary periferals such as monitors, mice and keyboards. Introduction to the Command Line Jeff Lawton of Ideal Solution will help new Linux users to become familiar with the command line. If you aren't comfortable with the Linux command line you'll want to take this class before attending the later sessions. Volunteers will be on hand to provide individualized support. Basic Networking and System Security Charles Ulrich of Liquid Web will guide new Linux system administrators in the basics of networking and network security. Additional volunteers will be on hand to assist you in setting up your machines according to your individual needs. Participants are encouraged to bring the machines they are planning to connect to the network. LAMP Server Workshop Clay Dowling of Lazarus Internet Development and Charles Ulrich of Liquid Web will briefly discuss the services that can be offered by a Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP/Perl/Python (LAMP) server. Individual assistance will be provided in a workshop format to assist users with setting up their own LAMP servers. Participants should bring their own machines and necessary periferals to this workshop. From marr at copper.net Sun Jun 28 13:12:45 2009 From: marr at copper.net (Marr) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:12:45 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Class Summary In-Reply-To: <4A46D2AE.1010609@lazarusid.com> References: <4A46D2AE.1010609@lazarusid.com> Message-ID: <200906281312.45891.marr@copper.net> On Saturday 27 June 2009 10:17:18pm Clay Dowling wrote: > These are my proposed summaries for the classes. Let me know if I should > make any changes. Changes are good. These descriptions will appear in > fliers and the press releases. Anytime you're preparing something for the public, I'd humbly suggest you run it through a spell-checker. In this case, you misspelled "peripherals" (in 2 spots). As computer people, that's one word we'd best not get wrong. ;^) HTH.... Bill Marr From mortel at cyber-nos.com Sun Jun 28 15:11:17 2009 From: mortel at cyber-nos.com (Stanley C. Mortel) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:11:17 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Our First Saturday Meeting In-Reply-To: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> References: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A47C055.7000604@cyber-nos.com> I had every intention of going, but ended up spending the day sick in bed. Yuck! Worse than computer viruses. Sorry you were alone there Chick. I should be there in August. Stan Chick Tower wrote: > I don't recall anyone saying Saturday meetings are a stupid idea. I > checked, and at least three people wrote e-mails saying it was a great > idea. It's a good thing I wore my Thunderbird t-shirt, because the one > other person there for the meeting was new, so he could tell I might be > a Linux user. > > Is there anyone who would like to have a meeting at Gone Wired on > Saturday, August 1st, at 1:00 p.m.? Gone Wired has Facebook and MySpace > pages, and their website is http://gonewiredcafe.net/ > From c.e.tower at gmail.com Sun Jun 28 15:32:02 2009 From: c.e.tower at gmail.com (Chick Tower) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:32:02 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Our First Saturday Meeting In-Reply-To: <4A47C055.7000604@cyber-nos.com> References: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> <4A47C055.7000604@cyber-nos.com> Message-ID: <4A47C532.3060608@gmail.com> Well, I wasn't alone all the time. I had my laptop. :) There was also someone new who uses Linux. You guys probably won't like him, though. Rob says he likes guns, motorcycles, and brewing beer, as well as FOSS. Chick Stanley C. Mortel wrote: > I had every intention of going, but ended up spending the day sick in > bed. Yuck! Worse than computer viruses. > > Sorry you were alone there Chick. I should be there in August. > > Stan From clay at lazarusid.com Sun Jun 28 21:26:06 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:26:06 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Our First Saturday Meeting In-Reply-To: <4A47C532.3060608@gmail.com> References: <4A468F65.3090709@gmail.com> <4A47C055.7000604@cyber-nos.com> <4A47C532.3060608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A48182E.7060700@lazarusid.com> Chick Tower wrote: > Well, I wasn't alone all the time. I had my laptop. :) > > There was also someone new who uses Linux. You guys probably won't like > him, though. Rob says he likes guns, motorcycles, and brewing beer, as > well as FOSS. > Man, he's totally not going to fit in. From rick at divinesymphony.net Sun Jun 28 21:37:28 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:37:28 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Class Summary In-Reply-To: <200906281312.45891.marr@copper.net> References: <4A46D2AE.1010609@lazarusid.com> <200906281312.45891.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: Everyone seems to focus on server security at the expense of application security. Any interest in adding on a Thursday follow-up for application security (SQL injection, unicode implications of character blacklisting, security strategies, etc.)? On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Marr wrote: > On Saturday 27 June 2009 10:17:18pm Clay Dowling wrote: >> These are my proposed summaries for the classes. Let me know if I should >> make any changes. ?Changes are good. ?These descriptions will appear in >> fliers and the press releases. > > Anytime you're preparing something for the public, I'd humbly suggest you run > it through a spell-checker. In this case, you misspelled "peripherals" (in 2 > spots). As computer people, that's one word we'd best not get wrong. ;^) > > HTH.... > > Bill Marr > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > From clay at lazarusid.com Sun Jun 28 22:50:47 2009 From: clay at lazarusid.com (Clay Dowling) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:50:47 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Server Class Summary In-Reply-To: References: <4A46D2AE.1010609@lazarusid.com> <200906281312.45891.marr@copper.net> Message-ID: <4A482C07.3000303@lazarusid.com> Richard Houser wrote: > Everyone seems to focus on server security at the expense of > application security. Any interest in adding on a Thursday follow-up > for application security (SQL injection, unicode implications of > character blacklisting, security strategies, etc.)? > It's something we can bring out in a later session if you want. I'm not sure that we'll be really discussing a lot of programming in the workshop. For most people we'll do better to steer them toward existing software. Folks want to talk specifics about programming, we can consider a later series of classes. But we don't have the right format to teach in-depth programming. Our time is better spent showing people specific, focused topics like SQL or preventing SQL Injection Attacks, or using AJAX. Clay From joelm_audion at msn.com Mon Jun 29 08:18:59 2009 From: joelm_audion at msn.com (Joel Mayer) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:18:59 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Accessing the Recovery Console In Windows XP Pro Message-ID: I recently tried to work my way out of a serious software problem with the recovery console on my Windows XP Pro installation CD. Unfortunately, the CD did not recognize my administrator's password. For a long dark while it looked as if I was up against the possibility of fresh install of my operating system. And then a time consuming and laborious re-install of all my software and program files. On a hunch I inserted my Windows XP Pro service pack 2 recovery disc into my DVD drive. It Worked! Without any need for a password I made my way to a command prompt, ran check disc, and was soon back up and running! The issue here- if you bought into Windows XP Pro before service pack two and you have service pack two or three installed on your machine. Your machine thinks it has a completely different operating system from Windows XP Pro, service pack zero. So, it will not recognize the OEM CD (service pack zero). Thus you need a recovery disc with Windows XP Pro service pack two installed to get back to work. Good thing I bought a new lap top this year. Have a nice bail out / Joel Mayer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20090629/58516bc6/attachment.html From rick at divinesymphony.net Mon Jun 29 17:31:11 2009 From: rick at divinesymphony.net (Richard Houser) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:31:11 -0400 Subject: [GLLUG] Equipment for Eighth Grade Science / Technology Class In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Even if she finds a source that's willing to help support the machines (ex. a Linux network supplied by a LUG - or a few of the more technical teachers spending a year or two to get current), she's almost certainly going to need to get the machines on the network. I've worked with one K-12 district in Michigan, and beurocracy/school policies were even a larger deterrent than the money. I'd recommend making sure that aspect of things is set before even looking at anything else. Once that's out of the way, I think it comes down to good old-fashioned networking. Ask the local LUGs for input and possibly limited software support. Ask around for local businesses that may be going through a Windows desktop refresh and would be interested in the tax write-off for donating these to a non-profit. Good Luck! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Ex Fed wrote: > Hi I've been involved in the GLLUG in varying degrees for a number of > years.? I wanted to bounce an idea off of you guys to see if you can offer > any input. > > I have an acquaintance that works in Florida, she is a teacher.? She > indicates that their school district is financially strapped, they don't > even have any computers in her eighth grade science technology classroom. > If they had computers with the right software that would help the students > learn. > > Does anybody have any idea how she could solicit donations of good used > computers for a classroom? ?Or perhaps solicit community involvement from a > LUG down there to help out with that? > Thanks in advance. > > Lee Duynslager > > > > > ________________________________ > Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Get it on your > BlackBerry or iPhone. > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > linux-user at egr.msu.edu > http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user > >