<HTML dir=ltr><HEAD><TITLE>Re: MSUMAIL: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=unicode"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3059" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV id=idOWAReplyText69318 dir=ltr> <DIV dir=ltr>Speaking of open source brewing stuff, I recently looked for an API framework so that I could track CO2 bubbles.  My thought was to get a cheap webcam, then motion sensor API that would register the bubbles, then track these over time on a web site so you could see a chart of bubbles/minute and know when your beer was done with primary fermentation without actually opening the closet.  But, alas, my limited attention span made it just another pipe (carboy?) dream.  I found a code base that could probably have been adapted but never go around to dusting off any programming books to hack it into shape</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr> </DIV></DIV> <DIV id=idSignature69195 dir=ltr> <DIV>Mark Lachniet Technical Director, Security Group Analysts International (517) 336-1004 (voice) (517) 336-1160 (fax) mailto: mlachniet@analysts.com </DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr> <HR tabIndex=-1> From: linux-user-bounces@egr.msu.edu on behalf of Adam McDougall Sent: Wed 4/25/2007 9:36 PM To: Ian M Walker Cc: linux-user@egr.msu.edu Subject: Re: MSUMAIL: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka! </DIV> <DIV> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 07:54:15PM -0400, Ian M Walker wrote:    I had hit reply earlier, not reply to list. But what I had said was that    there IS open-source beer:    <A href="http://www.freebeer.org/">http://www.freebeer.org/</A>    Its a Creative Commons lisense on the recipe. And its caffinated! Guarana is    one of the ingredients. I have yet to brew it myself, but...    And yeah, a lot of brewers are very generous with their recipes. One of my    favorite beers (<A href="http://www.shmaltz.com/lennys.html">http://www.shmaltz.com/lennys.html</A>) flat-out lists their    recipe on their website. Its for their full batch, but if you do the math,    you can scale it down (but some of the hops are hard to find - I have a    batch in the basement right now that's based on it).    But yeah, you can find a lot of recipes that are close, if not pretty    precise, but even if you find the one that's used, equipment and water    effect the beer, not to mention the fact that most of us don't have a setup    quite large enough for brewery-size batches; a sparge volume of 1389 gal,    and a dry hop of 66lbs... not exactly small.    Speaking of open-source and beer, it kind of bums me out that I can't find a    decent beer recipe manager that's open source. I have Beer Alchemy    (<A href="http://www.kentplacesoftware.com/products/BeerAlchemy.html">http://www.kentplacesoftware.com/products/BeerAlchemy.html</A>) for my Mac, and    there's BeerSmith (<A href="http://www.beersmith.com/">http://www.beersmith.com/</A>), but... At least BeerSmith    runs well (enough) in Wine, but you still need to buy a liscense.    Ian!    walkeri1@msu.edu I'm glad this was brought up.  I've tried qbrew and it seems decent.  Try it out.  <A href="http://www.usermode.org/code.html">http://www.usermode.org/code.html</A> Also seeing as how people that brew are suddenly exposing themselves, I decided I should make a mailing list for the topic so interested persons can join and collaborate.  I brew myself and have a few friends that do, and I have 4 packages of rogue pacman yeast in the fridge waiting for an opportune moment.  I know of 2 MSU faculty that brew in some form as well. I will probably setup homebrew@twistoffornot.com with mailman. My friends and I also have a wiki setup at <A href="http://www.attemptedzymurgy.com/">http://www.attemptedzymurgy.com/</A>. I'm partway through documenting my brewing process and equipment, haven't worked on it in a while but the beer(s) of interest section is up to date. We do a number of beer kits from things beer plus some recipes from elsewhere.    Clay Dowling writes:   > It's the rare beer that isn't open source.  Brewers tend to be pretty   > generous about sharing information.  If Fred Seers of Frankenmuth Brewery   > shared his Frankenmuth Dark recipe (which he did, I have it), I think it's   > safe to assume most will.  Copying his process and making an identical beer   > would be next to impossible.  His former assistant is head brewer there now   > and the beer is different.  Still good, but definitely a different beer.   > Clay Adam McDougall wrote:   >> Only if your beer is Open Source! ps. I would drink the Goat Scrotum  (go   >> ahead and try to take THAT out of context) On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at   >> 02:20:16PM -0400, Lachniet, Mark wrote: If you guys wanna get REALLY nutz,   >> I'll brew up a few 5gal kegs of GLLUG beer   >> in my basement..  Even the acronym is reminiscent of swilling down beer.   >> (Gllug   >>   gllug gllug, burph, ahhh)        Lemme see, Penguin Porter?  Linux   >> Lager?   I make a mean "Goat Scrotum Ale"   >>   but somehow I don't think that will sell well.  :)   >>      Mark Lachniet   >>   Technical Director, Security Group   >>   Analysts International   >>   (517) 336-1004 (voice)   >>   (517) 336-1160 (fax)   >>   mailto: mlachniet@analysts.com   >>       >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------   >> ------   >>   From: linux-user-bounces@egr.msu.edu on behalf of Clay Dowling   >>   Sent: Wed 4/25/2007 2:22 PM   >>   To: Chick Tower   >>   Cc: linux-user@egr.msu.edu   >>   Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!   >>       Chick is a genius!   >>     I'll volunteer to do the same for the beer, while providing tech   >> support.   >>     Clay   >>     Chick Tower wrote:   >> > I have the solution to a couple of problems, and it's simple.  We serve   >> > Woodchuck Draft Cider on-tap (not bottles!) during the whole of   >> Penguicon.   >>   >   >>   > A) People not old enough to drink are banned by state law.  ("Sorry,   >>   > it's not OUR decision that you can't come in, it's the state's.")   >>   >   >> > B) I'll be in the computer lounge twenty-four hours a day, so the need   >>   > for staffing is cut in half.   >>   >   >>   > However, let that tap run dry and there'll be hell to pay.   >>   >   >>                                     Chick   >>   >   >>   >   >>   > _______________________________________________   >>   > linux-user mailing list   >>   > linux-user@egr.msu.edu   >>   > <A href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A>   >>   >   >>       --   >>   Simple Content Management   >>   <A href="http://www.ceamus.com/">http://www.ceamus.com</A>   >>     _______________________________________________   >>   linux-user mailing list   >>   linux-user@egr.msu.edu   >>   <A href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A>   >>      _______________________________________________   >>   linux-user mailing list   >>   linux-user@egr.msu.edu   >>   <A href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A>   > _______________________________________________   > linux-user mailing list   > linux-user@egr.msu.edu   > <A href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A>      _______________________________________________    linux-user mailing list    linux-user@egr.msu.edu    <A href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A> _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list linux-user@egr.msu.edu <A href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A> </DIV></BODY></HTML>