some of the games are considered freeware now. and I think doom is open source. regardless collector's edition is cheap and I have a copy. and back then I don't think they were licensing per cpu so one license should be enough for the terminal server. <div>On 5/2/07, Charles Ulrich <<a href="mailto:charles@idealso.com">charles@idealso.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Tuesday 01 May 2007 20:13, Caleb Cushing wrote: > is openquake 3d? if not would it matter? I'm not sure doom is > considered 3d. All modern incarnations of the Quake engine are OpenGL. Doom is considered 2.5D, but the original at least, uses its own software rendering engine so 2D performance is all you need. The problem even with running Doom on the terminal server is that you're still pushing massive screen updates to the terminals. (And Doom is still copyrighted and thus needs licenses.) > anyways there have been requests for lots of games > that could easily be on the terminal server. like stuff in dos > emulators. Most decent DOS games are still copyrighted too, so even though they might run fine on terminals, they still need licenses. That said, there are a number of decent games that can be run on the terminal server that aren't graphics-intensive. FreeCiv, gtetrinet, and Frozen Bubble come to mind. Many Win32 freeware games probably run fine in WINE. -- Charles Ulrich Ideal Solution, LLC -- <a href="http://www.idealso.com">http://www.idealso.com</a> </blockquote></div> -- Caleb Cushing