<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> <STYLE></STYLE> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18854"></HEAD> <BODY style="BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; FONT-STYLE: normal; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; PADDING-TOP: 15px" id=MailContainerBody leftMargin=0 topMargin=0 acc_role="text" CanvasTabStop="true" name="Compose message area"> <DIV> <DIV>3. Linux Multimedia, SusSE 11.2 + Kaffeine</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It finally dawned on me that the real issue with multimedia in Linux is;</DIV> <DIV>where are the missing codecs? Turns out the people who put together</DIV> <DIV>media players for Linux users worry they might be accused of aiding</DIV> <DIV>and abetting Hollywood movie piracy. So- by analogy with the way</DIV> <DIV>Audacity leaves off the lame codec. Media player programmers omit </DIV> <DIV>key video and audio codecs from their packages. Leaving it to the </DIV> <DIV>amateur to figure out the problem and then go and locate and install</DIV> <DIV>the essential codecs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway, after weeks and weeks of false starts I finally got Kaffeine</DIV> <DIV>sort of working in SuSE Linux 11.2 off a Hauppauge 1950 (model 1192) </DIV> <DIV>USB TV box. The reason for my success is two fold-</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(1) I figured out how to install Mike Isley's driver and firmware.</DIV> <DIV>(2) I found an easy to understand tutorial:</DIV> <DIV><A title=http://www.acaciaclose.co.uk/4436/index.html href="http://www.acaciaclose.co.uk/4436/index.html">http://www.acaciaclose.co.uk/4436/index.html</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Telling me everything I need to know about Kaffeine.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just now I can see WLNS (Lansing MI) as an over the air digital</DIV> <DIV>broadcast. Someday soon I might be able to get Kaffeine to scan</DIV> <DIV>for channels off my Broadstripe cable connection. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Does anyone know why I can't find a cable channel when I put</DIV> <DIV>Kaffeine in the scan mode?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Joel Mayer </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 21, 2009 12:00 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> linux-user Digest, Vol 80, Issue 13</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Send linux-user mailing list submissions to<BR><A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR><A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR><A title=mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu</A><BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR><A title=mailto:linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu</A><BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of linux-user digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>   1. $99 Laptop / OLPC (Ex Fed)<BR>   2. Re: $99 Laptop / OLPC (Richard Houser)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:58:19 +0000<BR>From: Ex Fed <<A title=mailto:exfed@hotmail.com href="mailto:exfed@hotmail.com">exfed@hotmail.com</A>><BR>To: GLLUG LANSING <<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>><BR>Subject: [GLLUG] $99 Laptop / OLPC<BR>Message-ID: <<A title=mailto:SNT104-W31C91601C2FB2ACFCDA1C5B5820@phx.gbl href="mailto:SNT104-W31C91601C2FB2ACFCDA1C5B5820@phx.gbl">SNT104-W31C91601C2FB2ACFCDA1C5B5820@phx.gbl</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><BR>I used one of those OLPC laptops and it was so slow loading programs and switching between programs, it was pretty much unusable in comparison to any other computers I've ever used.  Did anybody else out there have any experience with the OLPC laptop?<BR><BR> <BR><BR>LD<BR><BR> <BR><BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows CE.<BR>> (Don Bosman)<BR>> 2. Re: FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows CE.<BR>> (Karl Schuttler)<BR>> 3. PC fits into keyboard, uses only five Watts - News - Linux<BR>> for Devices (Chick Tower)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:13:21 -0500<BR>> From: Don Bosman <<A title=mailto:dbosman@msu.edu href="mailto:dbosman@msu.edu">dbosman@msu.edu</A>><BR>> To: The WFTL LUG <<A title=mailto:wftl-lug@salmar.com href="mailto:wftl-lug@salmar.com">wftl-lug@salmar.com</A>>, GLLUG <<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>><BR>> Subject: [GLLUG] FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows<BR>> CE.<BR>> Message-ID: <<A title=mailto:4B2BE261.5020205@msu.edu href="mailto:4B2BE261.5020205@msu.edu">4B2BE261.5020205@msu.edu</A>><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed<BR>> <BR>> <A title=http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php href="http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php">http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> At just $99, the new 7? Cherrypal Africa is one of the best buys in the <BR>> world of electronics. Created with developing countries in mind, the <BR>> Africa is our latest step toward closing the ?digital divide?, and we?re <BR>> extremely proud of this achievement. Whether you live in Ghana or Texas, <BR>> the Cherrypal Africa is right for you!<BR>> <BR>> Based on an 400 MHz processor, the ?big enough? Africa is powerful <BR>> enough to do what you need it to. From browsing the Internet to word <BR>> processing, the Africa runs Windows CE and is the perfect size to take <BR>> anywhere. Where do you want to go?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:07:38 -0500<BR>> From: Karl Schuttler <<A title=mailto:rexykik@gmail.com href="mailto:rexykik@gmail.com">rexykik@gmail.com</A>><BR>> To: <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows<BR>> CE.<BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <<A title=mailto:984d708a0912181307l612190c6ld78e81de862d43a0@mail.gmail.com href="mailto:984d708a0912181307l612190c6ld78e81de862d43a0@mail.gmail.com">984d708a0912181307l612190c6ld78e81de862d43a0@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<BR>> <BR>> ...but I don't live in Ghana *or *Texas...aw maaaan.<BR>> <BR>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Don Bosman <<A title=mailto:dbosman@msu.edu href="mailto:dbosman@msu.edu">dbosman@msu.edu</A>> wrote:<BR>> > <A title=http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php href="http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php">http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php</A><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > At just $99, the new 7? Cherrypal Africa is one of the best buys in the<BR>> > world of electronics. Created with developing countries in mind, the<BR>> Africa<BR>> > is our latest step toward closing the ?digital divide?, and we?re<BR>> extremely<BR>> > proud of this achievement. Whether you live in Ghana or Texas, the<BR>> Cherrypal<BR>> > Africa is right for you!<BR>> ><BR>> > Based on an 400 MHz processor, the ?big enough? Africa is powerful enough<BR>> to<BR>> > do what you need it to. From browsing the Internet to word processing, the<BR>> > Africa runs Windows CE and is the perfect size to take anywhere. Where do<BR>> > you want to go?<BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > linux-user mailing list<BR>> > <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR>> > <A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A><BR>> ><BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: <<A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091218/40018e7c/attachment-0001.html href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091218/40018e7c/attachment-0001.html">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091218/40018e7c/attachment-0001.html</A>><BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:17:16 -0600<BR>> From: Chick Tower <<A title=mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com">c.e.tower@gmail.com</A>><BR>> To: "<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>" <<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>><BR>> Subject: [GLLUG] PC fits into keyboard, uses only five Watts - News -<BR>> Linux for Devices<BR>> Message-ID: <<A title=mailto:4B2C1B8C.7080805@gmail.com href="mailto:4B2C1B8C.7080805@gmail.com">4B2C1B8C.7080805@gmail.com</A>><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR>> <BR>> Here's what we should use if we were to design a computer lounge from <BR>> scratch. And we had money to spend. And a reason to provide a computer <BR>> lounge.<BR>> <BR>> <A title=http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/ href="http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/">http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/</A><BR>> -- <BR>> <BR>> Chick<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> linux-user mailing list<BR>> <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR>> <A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> End of linux-user Digest, Vol 80, Issue 11<BR>> ******************************************<BR><BR>       <BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.<BR><A title=http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ href="http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/">http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/</A><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091221/71fd5862/attachment-0001.html href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091221/71fd5862/attachment-0001.html">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091221/71fd5862/attachment-0001.html</A>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:41:08 -0500<BR>From: Richard Houser <<A title=mailto:rick@divinesymphony.net href="mailto:rick@divinesymphony.net">rick@divinesymphony.net</A>><BR>To: Ex Fed <<A title=mailto:exfed@hotmail.com href="mailto:exfed@hotmail.com">exfed@hotmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: GLLUG LANSING <<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [GLLUG] $99 Laptop / OLPC<BR>Message-ID:<BR><<A title=mailto:c713647a0912201941y4924e36cod315bbeb263cfcab@mail.gmail.com href="mailto:c713647a0912201941y4924e36cod315bbeb263cfcab@mail.gmail.com">c713647a0912201941y4924e36cod315bbeb263cfcab@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>I saw one at Penguicon two years ago and it was quite snappy with the<BR>apps in use.  Perhaps you weren't running applications suitable for<BR>the hardware?  It's designed for low power, not high performance.<BR><BR>On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ex Fed <<A title=mailto:exfed@hotmail.com href="mailto:exfed@hotmail.com">exfed@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> I used one of those OLPC?laptops and it was so slow loading programs and<BR>> switching between programs, it was pretty much unusable in comparison to any<BR>> other computers I've ever used.? Did anybody else out there have any<BR>> experience with the OLPC laptop?<BR>><BR>> LD<BR>><BR>>><BR>>> Today's Topics:<BR>>><BR>>> 1. FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows CE.<BR>>> (Don Bosman)<BR>>> 2. Re: FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows CE.<BR>>> (Karl Schuttler)<BR>>> 3. PC fits into keyboard, uses only five Watts - News - Linux<BR>>> for Devices (Chick Tower)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> Message: 1<BR>>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:13:21 -0500<BR>>> From: Don Bosman <<A title=mailto:dbosman@msu.edu href="mailto:dbosman@msu.edu">dbosman@msu.edu</A>><BR>>> To: The WFTL LUG <<A title=mailto:wftl-lug@salmar.com href="mailto:wftl-lug@salmar.com">wftl-lug@salmar.com</A>>, GLLUG <<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>><BR>>> Subject: [GLLUG] FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows<BR>>> CE.<BR>>> Message-ID: <<A title=mailto:4B2BE261.5020205@msu.edu href="mailto:4B2BE261.5020205@msu.edu">4B2BE261.5020205@msu.edu</A>><BR>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed<BR>>><BR>>> <A title=http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php href="http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php">http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> At just $99, the new 7? Cherrypal Africa is one of the best buys in the<BR>>> world of electronics. Created with developing countries in mind, the<BR>>> Africa is our latest step toward closing the ?digital divide?, and we?re<BR>>> extremely proud of this achievement. Whether you live in Ghana or Texas,<BR>>> the Cherrypal Africa is right for you!<BR>>><BR>>> Based on an 400 MHz processor, the ?big enough? Africa is powerful<BR>>> enough to do what you need it to. From browsing the Internet to word<BR>>> processing, the Africa runs Windows CE and is the perfect size to take<BR>>> anywhere. Where do you want to go?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> Message: 2<BR>>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:07:38 -0500<BR>>> From: Karl Schuttler <<A title=mailto:rexykik@gmail.com href="mailto:rexykik@gmail.com">rexykik@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> To: <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR>>> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] FWIW $99.00 laptop If you can blow away Windows<BR>>> CE.<BR>>> Message-ID:<BR>>> <<A title=mailto:984d708a0912181307l612190c6ld78e81de862d43a0@mail.gmail.com href="mailto:984d708a0912181307l612190c6ld78e81de862d43a0@mail.gmail.com">984d708a0912181307l612190c6ld78e81de862d43a0@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<BR>>><BR>>> ...but I don't live in Ghana *or *Texas...aw maaaan.<BR>>><BR>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Don Bosman <<A title=mailto:dbosman@msu.edu href="mailto:dbosman@msu.edu">dbosman@msu.edu</A>> wrote:<BR>>> > <A title=http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php href="http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php">http://www.cherrypal.com/products.php</A><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> > At just $99, the new 7? Cherrypal Africa is one of the best buys in the<BR>>> > world of electronics. Created with developing countries in mind, the<BR>>> Africa<BR>>> > is our latest step toward closing the ?digital divide?, and we?re<BR>>> extremely<BR>>> > proud of this achievement. Whether you live in Ghana or Texas, the<BR>>> Cherrypal<BR>>> > Africa is right for you!<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Based on an 400 MHz processor, the ?big enough? Africa is powerful<BR>>> > enough<BR>>> to<BR>>> > do what you need it to. From browsing the Internet to word processing,<BR>>> > the<BR>>> > Africa runs Windows CE and is the perfect size to take anywhere. Where<BR>>> > do<BR>>> > you want to go?<BR>>> ><BR>>> > _______________________________________________<BR>>> > linux-user mailing list<BR>>> > <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR>>> > <A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A><BR>>> ><BR>>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>>> URL:<BR>>> <<A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091218/40018e7c/attachment-0001.html href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091218/40018e7c/attachment-0001.html">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20091218/40018e7c/attachment-0001.html</A>><BR>>><BR>>> ------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> Message: 3<BR>>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:17:16 -0600<BR>>> From: Chick Tower <<A title=mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com">c.e.tower@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> To: "<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>" <<A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A>><BR>>> Subject: [GLLUG] PC fits into keyboard, uses only five Watts - News -<BR>>> Linux for Devices<BR>>> Message-ID: <<A title=mailto:4B2C1B8C.7080805@gmail.com href="mailto:4B2C1B8C.7080805@gmail.com">4B2C1B8C.7080805@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR>>><BR>>> Here's what we should use if we were to design a computer lounge from<BR>>> scratch. And we had money to spend. And a reason to provide a computer<BR>>> lounge.<BR>>><BR>>> <A title=http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/ href="http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/">http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/</A><BR>>> --<BR>>><BR>>> Chick<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> linux-user mailing list<BR>>> <A title=mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR>>> <A title=http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> End of linux-user Digest, Vol 80, Issue 11<BR>>> ******************************************<BR>><BR>><BR>> ________________________________<BR>> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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