thanks for all the info :] <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <<a href="mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Send linux-user mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of linux-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. need some advice (Jeremy Neil) 2. Re: need some advice (Charles Ulrich) 3. Re: need some advice (Chick Tower) 4. Re: need some advice (Clay Dowling) 5. Re: need some advice (Richard Houser) 6. Re: need some advice (STeve Andre') ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:53:25 -0500 From: Jeremy Neil <<a href="mailto:jrmyzero@gmail.com">jrmyzero@gmail.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> Subject: [GLLUG] need some advice Message-ID: <CA+aVxJUqx9wi6-gonyBGepp5jmjS2t5Df7z0+DNjD08=<a href="mailto:XE29EQ@mail.gmail.com">XE29EQ@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know what this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's so I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the console. However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20111112/2fc801ad/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/public/linux-user/attachments/20111112/2fc801ad/attachment-0001.html</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:25:55 -0500 From: Charles Ulrich <<a href="mailto:charles@bityard.net">charles@bityard.net</a>> To: Jeremy Neil <<a href="mailto:jrmyzero@gmail.com">jrmyzero@gmail.com</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice Message-ID: <CADbws4jD87zKPtv_1==<a href="mailto:qASW0LzUK-JOEjdpg4f9ZGrgH%2Bex66g@mail.gmail.com">qASW0LzUK-JOEjdpg4f9ZGrgH+ex66g@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If Liquid Web offered you the job, they would be the best ones to ask what you need to brush up on. But since they're a web hosting provider, you'll want to learn all you can about web servers (Apache, mostly), DNS, and email since those are the things you'll likely be troubleshooting the most. CentOS is a very popular Linux distribution in web hosting, so that would be a good one to start with. Charles On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Jeremy Neil <<a href="mailto:jrmyzero@gmail.com">jrmyzero@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know what > this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's so > I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered > would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough > console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the console. > However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so > bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since > the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ . > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> > <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a> > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:02:08 -0600 From: Chick Tower <<a href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com">c.e.tower@gmail.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4EBED0C0.1020701@gmail.com">4EBED0C0.1020701@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ubuntu doesn't use RPM packages, so that (and any other Debian derivative) won't help you out, Jeremy. CentOS is a Red Hat clone, and it's free, so that would work. So would Mandriva, Mageia, and OpenSuSE, and I believe PCLinuxOS is RPM-based, too. As for instruction, you should be able to find tutorials on RPM in any search engine. Here's one for a start: <a href="http://search.yippy.com/search?query=linux%20RPM%20tutorial" target="_blank">http://search.yippy.com/search?query=linux%20RPM%20tutorial</a> Chick On 11/12/2011 12:53 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote: > so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know what > this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's so > I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered > would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough > console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the console. > However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so > bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since > the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ . ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:05:37 -0500 From: Clay Dowling <<a href="mailto:clay@lazarusid.com">clay@lazarusid.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4EBED191.6070100@lazarusid.com">4EBED191.6070100@lazarusid.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 11/12/11 1:53 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote: > so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know > what this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm > distro's so I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job > I'd be offered would be a system's admin essentially, even though I > don't know enough console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new > with using the console. However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn > what I need to know, so bascially any pointers could help as well. > Thought I'd ask you guys since the local ubuntu irc channel guys have > pretty much rejected me :\ . Well, I'd expect them to thumb their nose at you if you're asking about handling rpms, because Ubuntu users don't have them. I don't know what Liquid Web uses, but Charles is right, starting with CentOS is the way to go. CentOS does have a GUI, but you should avoid it, because when you're administering servers you won't be using one. Also, as several of us have learned, the GUI will often burn you. If you don't have it, pick up Aeileen Frisch's excellent Essential Unix Administration. If you don't have time to do anything else, learn how to use vi proficiently. It's the most useful tool on the box, and you'll spend a large part of your day using it. You should also start learning scripting as soon as possible. Start with shell scripting (bash is the best starting point), but move on to Python pretty quickly. It's really good for scripting more complex things. Clay ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:43:06 -0500 From: Richard Houser <<a href="mailto:rick@divinesymphony.net">rick@divinesymphony.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com">c.e.tower@gmail.com</a> Cc: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice Message-ID: <CABFj=<a href="mailto:bRCDUOG1pMF2qAhi1jhRxWYAjKQ-9iS6ss2nnB_%2B-W0ig@mail.gmail.com">bRCDUOG1pMF2qAhi1jhRxWYAjKQ-9iS6ss2nnB_+-W0ig@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would suggest starting with Fedora. It's more up to date and is the upstream source RHEL and Centos come from. My theory is that more of the hardware will just work, and you can spend more of your time learning the applications themselves. On Nov 12, 2011 3:02 PM, "Chick Tower" <<a href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com">c.e.tower@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Ubuntu doesn't use RPM packages, so that (and any other Debian derivative) > won't help you out, Jeremy. CentOS is a Red Hat clone, and it's free, so > that would work. So would Mandriva, Mageia, and OpenSuSE, and I believe > PCLinuxOS is RPM-based, too. > > As for instruction, you should be able to find tutorials on RPM in any > search engine. Here's one for a start: > > <a href="http://search.yippy.com/**search?query=linux%20RPM%**20tutorial" target="_blank">http://search.yippy.com/**search?query=linux%20RPM%**20tutorial</a><<a href="http://search.yippy.com/search?query=linux%20RPM%20tutorial" target="_blank">http://search.yippy.com/search?query=linux%20RPM%20tutorial</a>> > > Chick > > On 11/12/2011 12:53 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote: > >> so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know what >> this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's so >> I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered >> would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough >> console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the >> console. >> However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so >> bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since >> the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ . >> > ______________________________**_________________ > linux-user mailing list > <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> > <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/**mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/**mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a><<a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CentOS is a very popular Linux distribution > in web hosting, so that would be a good one to start with. > > Charles > > Charles is quite right. The distro(s) they use would be the best *to start with*. Expanding your knowledge of the other major distros (and some oddball ones, just to see what they do) later is a good thing, too. I'd go to their web site and see if you can find what they use. --STeve Andre' ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a> End of linux-user Digest, Vol 103, Issue 5 ****************************************** </blockquote></div>