Android itself IS open source. Just the crap carriers put on there and some google tools are not. Take a look at cyanogenmod, for example. It's heavily modified for things like better user control and built from sources. Ice cream sandwich is even available for some phones. On Dec 9, 2011 11:25 PM, "STeve Andre'" <<a href="mailto:andres@msu.edu">andres@msu.edu</a>> wrote: > > > No. Giving up electronics does nothing about all the things spying > on you right now, which I think is a larger issue. > > And, its entirely possible to have secure things like smart phones, > once open source projects start digging into the core of something > like Android, to really see whats going on. The Open Moko phone > might have been a good start.. > > --STeve Andre' > > > On 12/09/11 12:36, Ben Chavez wrote: >> >> I guess giving up electronics is the only way of privacy nowadays. >> Google chairman says a little "keylogger" tool doesn't hurt anyone and the >> big companies say that they use that data just for network diagnostic >> purposes. >> If I could just create a new internet free of all current malware and stuff >> that would be really nice. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: <a href="mailto:linux-user-bounces@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-bounces@egr.msu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:linux-user-bounces@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-bounces@egr.msu.edu</a>] >> On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu</a> >> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:00PM >> To: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> >> Subject: linux-user Digest, Vol 104, Issue 5 >> >> Send linux-user mailing list submissions to >> <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> <a href="mailto:linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-request@egr.msu.edu</a> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> <a href="mailto:linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu">linux-user-owner@egr.msu.edu</a> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of linux-user digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Under Watch: A Day in the New Surveillance Society >> (Chick Tower) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:43:10 -0600 >> From: Chick Tower<<a href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com">c.e.tower@gmail.com</a>> >> To: <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> >> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Under Watch: A Day in the New Surveillance >> Society >> Message-ID:<<a href="mailto:4EE1053E.8010001@gmail.com">4EE1053E.8010001@gmail.com</a>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Makes me glad I don't have a smart phone or any social networking >> accounts. Now if I could just wean myself from this pesky Internet.... >> >> >> Chick >> >> On 12/08/2011 10:41 AM, Taylor Burke wrote: >>> >>> Interesting article for those of you who're into security: >>> >> <a href="http://owni.eu/2011/12/06/spyfiles-wikileaks-under-watch-a-day-in-the-new-su">http://owni.eu/2011/12/06/spyfiles-wikileaks-under-watch-a-day-in-the-new-su</a> >> rveillance-society/ >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > linux-user mailing list > <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> > <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a>