<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body">Hi, Jason,</div><div aria-label="Compose body"> I agree with you. I think I'm generally beyond the basics, but Access is the tool the prof has chosen for this class and many of the other students are showing that they do need the basics.<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"> Also, Rick, to be fair to Access, Microsoft has developed it significantly since the last time I used it about a decade ago. It's still not my first choice, but it's a workable tool.<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">Frank<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Jason L. Froebe" <jason.froebe@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Richard Houser" <rick@divinesymphony.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"Frank Dolinar" <frank.dolinar@comcast.net>, "GLLUG" <linux-user@egr.msu.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:26:00 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [GLLUG] Looking for a copy of Win7<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="" data-mce-style="">Hi Richard,</div><div><br></div>I disagree with you to the extent that MS Access can be used quite effectively to teach the *basics* of designing/using DBMS systems. In no way can Access be used on instructing database administration or more complex RDMS dbs which are what I believe you're thinking of.<div><br></div><div style="" data-mce-style="">jason</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Richard Houser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rick@divinesymphony.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:rick@divinesymphony.net">rick@divinesymphony.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>Personally, I would strongly question the integrity of any database class taught in outlook. Its not so much that you can't do things right, but that you have to fight Access to do things correctly (as of about 2003 era). If you go with it anyhow, ask your institution if MSDAA licensing is available for you as a student. If so, it probably covers the OS and Office.<div class="im"><br><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Frank Dolinar <<a href="mailto:frank.dolinar@comcast.net" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:frank.dolinar@comcast.net">frank.dolinar@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><pre>Yes, you read that right.<br></pre><div><br></div><pre> I'm taking a Database design course this term and the prof has an <br>assignment coming up in a few weeks that needs Access 2010 or later.<br> Just for the record I've asked the prof whether the database <br>
component of either Open Office or Libre Office will suffice. Wating for <br>an answer.<br> I can get Access, but I can't get Win7. Microsoft is selling <br>Windows 8.1 (aka Vista Lite). Not interested.<br></pre><div><br></div><pre> Anyone have or know where to get a reasonably priced copy of Win 7.<br>
<br> Any help much appreciated.<br></pre><div><br></div><pre>Thanks,<br>Frank<br></pre></blockquote></div><br> -- <br></div>Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.</div><br>_______________________________________________<br> linux-user mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a><br> <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love"</div></div><div><br></div><applet style="visibility: visible;" isactive="true" code="com/ibm/rational/test/ft/domain/htmljs/FTHtmlJsWrapper.class" archive="http://localhost:9100/rational_ft_htmljs.jar" name="FTHtmlJSWrapper" id="RFT_JS_WRAPPER_APPLET" width="0"></applet><script type="text/javascript" src="chrome://RtxFFEnabler/content/jquery.js"></script></div></body></html>