<div dir="ltr"><div>It's getting even worse, really... The same basic tech behind ksplice is now getting merged into the kernel proper, so soon we should see more mainstream distros offering no-reboot kernel upgrades. So, you will only need to reboot for systemd and the like. </div>Not trying to derail this too much with the systemd reference, but there is a whole class of developer now on Linux that is in general hostile to the Unix way of doing things and are basically in a fight to re-implement the various MS-Windowisms (including the binary event logs) on Linux. It's as if they just followed the rest of the developer crowd over without taking the time to understand that the Linux environment was doing so well largely because of the simplicity of interfaces and the fact that everything was interchangeable and end-user customizable. </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Chick Tower <<a href="mailto:c.e.tower@gmail.com" target="_blank">c.e.tower@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In case you missed this on Slashdot.... -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Is Modern Linux Becoming Too Complex? Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:13:00 GMT From: Soulskill Is Modern Linux Becoming Too Complex? An anonymous reader writes: Debian developer John Goerzen asks whether Linux has become so complex that it has lost some of its defining characteristics. "I used to be able to say Linux was clean, logical, well put-together, and organized. I can’t really say this anymore. Users and groups are not really determinitive for permissions, now that we have things like polkit running around. (Yes, by the way, I am a member of plugdev.) Error messages are unhelpful (WHY was I not authorized?) and logs are nowhere to be found. Traditionally, one could twiddle who could mount devices via /etc/fstab lines and perhaps some sudo rules. Granted, you had to know where to look, but when you did, it was simple; only two pieces to fit together. I've even spent time figuring out where to look and STILL have no idea what to do." Read more of this story <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <<a href="http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/02/11/0444232/is-modern-linux-becoming-too-complex?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feed" target="_blank">http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/02/11/0444232/is-modern-linux-becoming-too-complex?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feed</a>> </blockquote> at <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote> Slashdot. _______________________________________________ linux-user mailing list <a href="mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu" target="_blank">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</a> <a href="http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user</a> </blockquote></div> </div>