On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:36:15AM -0800, Scott Curtis wrote: This is the best book that I have found: Publisher New Riders Author Paul DuBois Pub Date 1st Edition December 1999 ISBN 0735709211 Pages 800 I second this recommendation. Very much like an O'Reiley book in that there is enough "meat" for technical/advanced user, but doesn't choke a beginner. However, the MySQL/msql book by O'Reiley is poor. My $1.50, dpk