[GLLUG] Learning SQL

[Caleb Cushing]

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On 3/28/06, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <kwiatk27 at msu.edu> wrote:
>
> You may want to check out businessgrade.com...  They are a new store front
> opening off okemos and Hamilton.  They even offer pretty nice user group
> discounts...
>
> -Nick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Caleb Cushing" <xenoterracide at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:39:37
> To:frank.dolinar at comcast.net, "Linux User" <linux-user at egr.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Learning SQL
>
> Barnes & Noble has it listed as $45 member price, and I'm a member ;-) (if
> anyone wants to use my discount sometime just ask), that doesn't seem bad
> considering I have to pay $100+ for crappy text books I don't want or need,
> and when they are computer books the examples only work 50% of the time and
> that's probably an optimistic evaluation. So a really good $45 dollar book
> seems like a deal to me. Books are expensive but often well worth the price
> I pay. Like right now I'm following LPI tutorials in IBM developerworks and
> reading LPI Linux certification in a nutshell. The compliment each other
> well although I have had some problems with some examples :-( . I hate text
> streams and filters... I've yet to find a really good use for them on my
> system. sort and uniq are the only ones I can forsee a use for, maybe I just
> need more than a single user system to see it.
>
>
> On 3/27/06, Frank Dolinar <frank.dolinar at comcast.net: <mailto:
> frank.dolinar at comcast.net> > wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>   I'm going to add my voice to recommending SQL for Smarties.
>   I've been reading Joe Celko's columns since I first encountered them,
> years ago in DBMS magaxine (now folded into Intelligent Enterprise).
>   SQL for Smarties will help you learn everything you need to know about
> SQL, what it is, where it came from, how it works, and eventually how to
> construct queries that do exactly what you need them to do. However, be
> advised. The book is not cheap. Nor is it an easy to read pamphlet that
> promises to teach you everything you ever needed to know about SQL in 20
> minutes. It's going to take work. But it will be worth it.
>   I agree with Clay. I've had the book for years and still find myself
> looking things up regularly. I've been working with SQL (principally SQL
> Server, but also Sybase, and some MySQL) for about 5 years. About once a
> month I encounter a problem or a bit of someone else's code that shows me
> something new about SQL. And when I look it up in the book to understand
> what's going on, the answers have (so far) always been there.
>   Worse, Mr. Celko has recently written a revised version of the book
> which is about 50% thicker and which I'm probably going to buy despite its
> cost.
>   He's probably the next best thing to reading Dr. Codd's original papers
> on relational databases in terms of the quality, accuracy, and depth of the
> content -- and he's a hell of a lot easier to understand.
>
> -- Frank
>
>
>
> Clay Dowling wrote: Andy Lee said:
> I concur with the others that books are not really necessary for learning
> SQL, but if you need a book, SQL for Smarties is the best learn SQL from
> scratch book I've seen. That said, start with googling SQL tutorials to
> see how it looks. You'll likely be amazed at how simple SQL is, at least
> to get off the ground with what most people do.
> SQL for Smarties is indeed an excellent investment, whether you're just
> learning SQL or you've been using it for years but want to improve your
> capabilities. I started using databases in 1996 and I still refer to this
> book. I discusses how to handle a lot of complex things that aren't
> immediately obvious unless you're an absolute guru. I'm not, so this book
> saves me.
>
> Clay
>
>
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