[GLLUG] Penguicon

[Eduardo Cesconetto]

Thanks Clay, I could not have said better then that
:)|

On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 11:04 -0400, Clay Dowling wrote:
> There wasn't bickering the whole time.  In fact it was a lot of fun. 
> Also, Eduardo really is referring to several normally responsible people. 
> Because Chick couldn't get people to sign up early enough a lot of things
> got filled in the last minute.  Marshall and I both missed shifts as well,
> without even realizing it until after the fact.
> 
> The problem is something that we all need to work on, not just one person.
>  Mostly people showed up and worked their shifts.  Some people put in a
> lot more effort than they were scheduled for, like Jeff's marathon effort
> to get the terminal server up and running, and Rick Houser's covering for
> people who couldn't or didn't make it to their shifts.
> 
> It was a huge step up in quality and quantity from last year, and I expect
> that next year it will be even better.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> Benjamin Cathey wrote:
> > LOL - wow, it's like being in middle school all over again.
> >
> > I didn't get a chance to go to the con because of a lack of money and
> > time.  I'm starting to think it's a good thing I didn't go.  Was there
> > bickering the whole time?  I thought the idea was to have fun and educate
> > people and celebrate linux.  I realize, if someone says they were going to
> > be somewhere then they should be there but pointing fingers, after the
> > fact, doesn't really do any good and just incites more confrontation.
> > Yes, someone should be somewhere when they say they are going to, but also
> > people need to be flexible to some degree as well.  I suppose, since I've
> > never been able to attend a meeting, I don't get a say but it seems this
> > group is awfully rigid and political in a way that the GRLUG never seemed
> > to be.
> >
> > Just my thoughts and I appreciate the amusing way this bickering goes - it
> > makes me think of siblings pointing the finger.  Linux users unite, not
> > squabble amongst yourselves ;]
> >
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Eduardo Cesconetto
> > [mailto:eduardo at cesconetto.com]
> > To: Caleb Cushing
> > [mailto:xenoterracide at gmail.com]
> > Cc: GLLUG
> > [mailto:linux-user at egr.msu.edu]
> > Sent: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:29:27
> > -0400
> > Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Penguicon
> >
> >
> >>->> On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 09:42 -0400, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> >>->> >
> >>->> >                 - When we volunteer to help at the lounge, we make
> >> a
> >>->> >                 commitment. Other
> >>->> >                 volunteers also want to attend panels and have fun,
> >>->> >                 and by not showing
> >>->> >                 up, some volunteer(s) disrespected the group, and I
> >>->> >                 honestly think
> >>->> >                 something should be done about it.
> >>->> >
> >>->> >         this is exactly why I didn't want to be an official
> >> volunteer
> >>->> >         at all, and wanted to avoid security shifts (because they
> >> are
> >>->> >         more critical). Also you didn't seem to have this same
> >> opinion
> >>->> >         when I was looking for Jordan when he was missing his
> >> shift.
> >>->> >         It went from he's over there to, oh he's missing his shift,
> >> I
> >>->> >         don't know where he is. This seems hypocritical on your
> >> part.
> >>->> I am referring to EVERYBODY that left other people hanging, and yes,
> >> you
> >>->> where the champion of that.
> >>->> >
> >>->> > I have one more thing to say on this. Instead of ostracizing (and
> >>->> > wanting to punish?) members of the group, and pointing fingers
> >> (even
> >>->> > though saying "you know who you are" instead of directly) perhaps
> >>->> > those that helped out extra should be rewarded somehow.
> >>->> The best reward in my opinion is knowing we thrived, and again, if
> >>->> nobody point to what is wrong, it cannot be corrected(and that
> >> includes
> >>->> my English language skills)
> >>->> >
> >>->> >
> >>->> >
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