[GLLUG] Anyone with experience with Macs and AirPort Extreme?

Eduardo Cesconetto eduardo at cesconetto.com
Tue Jul 8 14:58:56 EDT 2008

No problem with wired using DDWRT, for example, my Netgear Skype  
Cordless phone connects to the router using cat 5 and never dropped a  
call or lost quality..

On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Michael George wrote:

> On Tue, July 8, 2008 12:01 pm, Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>> On Jul 8, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Michael George wrote:
>>> Do you have dd-wrt on the wrt54gl?  If so, why don't you put the
>>> Linksys
>>> firmware back onto it?
>> Tried with both firmware, they fail in different areas, the original
>> has range issues, and DDWRT is looses simply have "hick-ups" and
>> looses connection for less then a second, of course then killing my
>> downloads..
>>> If you have tried both, then maybe it's a hardware problem.
>>> Newegg has
>>> the 54gl rated quite high by customers, so maybe you have a fluke.
>>> On the other hand, if your "failures" are that you cannot reliably
>>> connect
>>> from Macs, then maybe the problem is the Macs, not the router.  If I
>>> didn't have the old iBook to test, I would perhaps think the router
>>> was
>>> the problem, too.
>> I had my neighbor's 2 PCs pinging and downloading stuff overnight  
>> from
>> my router, same fail points. I then had the router RMA'd by Linksys,
>> and the same issues persisted...
>> I believe it all comes down to the N draft, N routers play well with
>> any older protocols, but N cards don't like older routers...
> Have you had *anyone* connect to the router and use it with  
> success?  Does
> a wired connection work correctly?
>>> On Tue, July 8, 2008 11:25 am, Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>>>> I am biased, no doubt. But I am also pissed with my WRT54GL, yes,  
>>>> it
>>>> is full of functions, but if they worked it would be nice. I am for
>>>> quality. If you like to spend your time trying to figure out why  
>>>> your
>>>> network FAIL all the time, get the WRT54G, I rather spend that time
>>>> being productive...
>>>> You can get a Netgear RangeMax WNR834B for 50 bucks at TigerDirect,
>>>> and be done with it. See Rick, no Apple!!!!
>>>> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3641947&Sku=N100-2079&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=TBBTkwCjCVyBpAgf%20mwzygtCjCVRqCjCVRq
>>>> On Jul 8, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Michael George wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the recommendation of OpenWRT.  Others have also made
>>>>> that
>>>>> suggestion.  I am thinking now may be a good time to do it, since
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> have two of them and can leapfrog from one to the other.
>>>>> On Mon, July 7, 2008 11:34 pm, Richard Houser wrote:
>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>> Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>>>>>> | Again, you are setting yourself for failure. The WRT54GL is
>>>>>> buggy,
>>>>>> | even worse when used with DDWRT.
>>>>>> | Give up and get a descent router. My recomendation is an  
>>>>>> Airport
>>>>>> | Extreme, but if you'd like to save some cash, get a cheap
>>>>>> Netgear N
>>>>>> | router...
>>>>>> Overall, the WRT54GL is a pretty good router, and contains some
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> impressive features.  Even if Apple is 100% to spec (doubtful),  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> that it works with everything else implies that only Apple is
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>> doing something different (whether technically allowed or not,  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> behavior would still be non-standard).
>>>>>> I'd recommend you use OpenWRT instead of DDWRT though.   
>>>>>> Basically,
>>>>>> OpenWRT is the original reference OSS firmware, and DDWRT is a
>>>>>> clone.
>>>>>> DDWRT has been under a lot of heat in the past for not releasing
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>> back to the community.  Many people on this list, including  
>>>>>> myself
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> several from Ideal Solutions are running WRT54G(L) units with
>>>>>> OpenWRT
>>>>>> and we haven't been having issues with our machines.
>>>>>> Feature-wise, any router Apple releases don't even come close to
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> you can do with an OpenWRT (the same is true of any mass-market
>>>>>> router
>>>>>> targeted at the home user).  Typical OpenWRT routers have a  
>>>>>> feature
>>>>>> set
>>>>>> consistent with the $15k+ commercial routers, but they just can't
>>>>>> handle
>>>>>> the speed or volume of connections (neither of which typically
>>>>>> matters
>>>>>> to even a high-end home user).
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