[GLLUG] WinXP Question (redux)

CJ Rainer - Hotmail cjjeepusa at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 2 08:38:51 EDT 2010


Frank,

If you are still having issues then I would perform the below actions. 
	1. Run Windows update with all of the most current updates,
specifically SP3 for XP, once the updates are done hit the "custom update"
button when you do Windows updates and see if Windows has any hardware
updates. If so look for your lan card update.
	2. Verify your nic is found in device manager, if it is not then I
would just install secondary nic in one of the PCI slots. If it is found
verify the TCP/IP stack is being created. Sometimes I have found you can
remove the TCP/IP stack and then read it.

Hope you can get this sorted.

CJ
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. WinXP Question (redux) (frank.dolinar at comcast.net)
   2. Re: WinXP Question (redux) (STeve Andre')
   3. Re: WinXP Question (redux) (Karl Schuttler)
   4. Re: WinXP Question (redux) (STeve Andre')


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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 00:54:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: frank.dolinar at comcast.net
To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
Subject: [GLLUG] WinXP Question (redux)
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Hi, everyone, 
Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. 
I wish I could say that something had worked. Nothing has. 

Here's what I know for the second round: 
1) I'm using DHCP for all but one of the systems in my house, the exception
being the server. After a number of conversations with various GLLUG
members, I decided that system should have its own static IP. 
2) "ipconfig /all" returns nothing. It's as if there is no network
capability in the computer. Works just fine under Ubuntu (dual boot Ubuntu
10.04 & WinXP Pro SP2). [Why am I not surprised?] 
3) I did not (intentionally) disable my network interface under WinXP. If
there's a way to check that that I haven't already tried, I'm interested in
knowing. 
4) Karl, I worked through the notes you provided. No joy. 
5) Steve, there isn't a separate ethernet card in the box, the NIC is
integral to the mainboard (MSI K8N Neo4) 
6) ping 127.0.0.1 works just fine. Nothing else does. 
7) Network cable on my Mac is separate from the network cable on my
Ubuntu/WinXP system. Cable isn't the issue, nor is the NIC. 
8) Stan's idea of a large rubber mallet (to be used as an attention getting
device) has some appeal. 
9) The workgroup name probably doesn't make any difference that I can tell.
The default "MSHOME" doesn't work, nor do any of the other suspects I'm
likely to use. In addition, this WinXP is the only Microsoft operating
system currently active in the house. 
10) I don't have either Symantec nor McAfee AV installed. I use AVG 9. 

That's about it for now. WinXP refuses to see a network connection, whereas
Ubuntu, using the same physical connection has no problem. Indeed, I'm
sending this note from the Ubuntu side of that computer. 

Any further comments, suggestions, Bronx Cheers... will be received in the
spirit they are offered. 

Thanks everyone. 

Frank 

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:24:00 -0400
From: STeve Andre' <andres at msu.edu>
To: frank.dolinar at comcast.net
Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
Subject: Re: [GLLUG] WinXP Question (redux)
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  On 09/01/10 20:54, frank.dolinar at comcast.net wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>     Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions.
>     I wish I could say that something had worked.  Nothing has.
>
>     Here's what I know for the second round:
> 1) I'm using DHCP for all but one of the systems in my house, the 
> exception being the server.  After a number of conversations with 
> various GLLUG members, I decided that system should have its own 
> static IP.
> 2) "ipconfig /all" returns nothing.  It's as if there is no network 
> capability in the computer.  Works just fine under Ubuntu (dual boot 
> Ubuntu 10.04 & WinXP Pro SP2).  [Why am I not surprised?]
> 3) I did not (intentionally) disable my network interface under 
> WinXP.  If there's a way to check that that I haven't already tried, 
> I'm interested in knowing.
> 4) Karl, I worked through the notes you provided.  No joy.
> 5) Steve, there isn't a separate ethernet card in the box, the NIC is 
> integral to the mainboard (MSI K8N Neo4)
> 6) ping 127.0.0.1  works just fine.  Nothing else does.
> 7) Network cable on my Mac is separate from the network cable on my 
> Ubuntu/WinXP system.  Cable isn't the issue, nor is the NIC.
> 8) Stan's idea of a large rubber mallet (to be used as an attention 
> getting device) has some appeal.
> 9) The workgroup name probably doesn't make any difference that I can 
> tell.  The default "MSHOME" doesn't work, nor do any of the other 
> suspects I'm likely to use.   In addition, this WinXP is the only 
> Microsoft operating system currently active in the house.
> 10) I don't have either Symantec nor McAfee AV installed.  I use AVG 9.
>
>     That's about it for now.   WinXP refuses to see a network 
> connection, whereas Ubuntu, using the same physical connection has no 
> problem.  Indeed, I'm sending this note from the Ubuntu side of that 
> computer.
>
>     Any further comments, suggestions, Bronx Cheers...  will be 
> received in the spirit they are offered.
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Frank

Frank, did you rip the ethernet card out of the device manager list, 
reboot and watch it get installed again?

--STeve Andre'

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:34:42 -0400
From: Karl Schuttler <karl.schuttler at gmail.com>
To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
Subject: Re: [GLLUG] WinXP Question (redux)
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More verbose instruction on what he's saying are to:

go into Control Panel>System>Device Manager
Expand Network Adapters by clicking the [+]
Find your LAN adapter there. You can figure out what the name of it is by
cross referencing it's name with the properties dialog under control panel.

To cross reference:
Control Panel>Network connections>Right click LAN
adapter>properties>whatever is in the "Connect using" box.

Then right click the device in the device manager, and press delete on your
keyboard.

Reboot.

I can't vouch for this method, as I've never done it myself, but Steve is a
self proclaimed windows guru.


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM, STeve Andre' <andres at msu.edu> wrote:

>  On 09/01/10 20:54, frank.dolinar at comcast.net wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone,
>     Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions.
>     I wish I could say that something had worked.  Nothing has.
>
>     Here's what I know for the second round:
> 1) I'm using DHCP for all but one of the systems in my house, the
exception
> being the server.  After a number of conversations with various GLLUG
> members, I decided that system should have its own static IP.
> 2) "ipconfig /all" returns nothing.  It's as if there is no network
> capability in the computer.  Works just fine under Ubuntu (dual boot
Ubuntu
> 10.04 & WinXP Pro SP2).  [Why am I not surprised?]
> 3) I did not (intentionally) disable my network interface under WinXP.  If
> there's a way to check that that I haven't already tried, I'm interested
in
> knowing.
> 4) Karl, I worked through the notes you provided.  No joy.
> 5) Steve, there isn't a separate ethernet card in the box, the NIC is
> integral to the mainboard (MSI K8N Neo4)
> 6) ping 127.0.0.1  works just fine.  Nothing else does.
> 7) Network cable on my Mac is separate from the network cable on my
> Ubuntu/WinXP system.  Cable isn't the issue, nor is the NIC.
> 8) Stan's idea of a large rubber mallet (to be used as an attention
getting
> device) has some appeal.
> 9) The workgroup name probably doesn't make any difference that I can
> tell.  The default "MSHOME" doesn't work, nor do any of the other suspects
> I'm likely to use.   In addition, this WinXP is the only Microsoft
operating
> system currently active in the house.
> 10) I don't have either Symantec nor McAfee AV installed.  I use AVG 9.
>
>     That's about it for now.   WinXP refuses to see a network connection,
> whereas Ubuntu, using the same physical connection has no problem.
Indeed,
> I'm sending this note from the Ubuntu side of that computer.
>
>     Any further comments, suggestions, Bronx Cheers...  will be received
in
> the spirit they are offered.
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Frank, did you rip the ethernet card out of the device manager list,
reboot
> and watch it get installed again?
>
> --STeve Andre'
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:53:11 -0400
From: STeve Andre' <andres at msu.edu>
To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
Subject: Re: [GLLUG] WinXP Question (redux)
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  On 09/01/10 21:34, Karl Schuttler wrote:
> More verbose instruction on what he's saying are to:
>
> go into Control Panel>System>Device Manager
> Expand Network Adapters by clicking the [+]
> Find your LAN adapter there. You can figure out what the name of it is 
> by cross referencing it's name with the properties dialog under 
> control panel.
>
> To cross reference:
> Control Panel>Network connections>Right click LAN 
> adapter>properties>whatever is in the "Connect using" box.
>
> Then right click the device in the device manager, and press delete on 
> your keyboard.
>
> Reboot.
>
> I can't vouch for this method, as I've never done it myself, but Steve 
> is a self proclaimed windows guru.

Hahaahahahaahahahaahahah....   More like Windows Bigot!

I maintain about 80 systems.  I have battle scars.  Thank you for better 
explaining what I said

--STeve Andre'



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