[GLLUG] Can Linux be loaded on an old Apple PowerBook G4 (Bryan Laur)

Stanley C. Mortel mortel at cyber-nos.com
Wed Aug 3 00:12:05 EDT 2011



On 7/31/2011 9:59 PM, Bryan Laur wrote:
> AFAIK Xubuntu is closer to ubuntu than it is to lubuntu.
> However, it should work just fine.
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> It might be a happy medium.
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> On another note, I've never to a meeting either.
> Hard to get myself motivated to get my ass over there, I guess.
>
> Perhaps if we had an IRC channel, I could get to know some of the 
> members well enough to feel motivated to come out.
> *hint hint*

Bryan,  on the other hand, if you were to come to a meeting you'd 
undoubtedly meet some like-minded folks and that would motivate you to 
come to more meetings.  ;-)

Stan
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> On 7/31/2011 1:19 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote:
>> what about xubuntu, i used that when i used linux and it worked well
>> enough on a old p2 machine.. ram was an issue though... but yeah, at
>> least when i used it i think xubuntu was more lightweight then the other
>> ubuntu versions.. idk.. i liked the xfce desktop more.. i have no idea
>> whats what now though.. i should probably attend some of the meetings
>> but last time i walked by gone wire cafe during a meeting i guess i felt
>> intimidated about walking in or out of place.. idk, seems the members
>> are older than i am if i even saw them.. anyways
>>
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>>     Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:29:21 -0400
>>     From: Bryan Laur <bjlaur at mtu.edu <mailto:bjlaur at mtu.edu>>
>>     To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu <mailto:linux-user at egr.msu.edu>
>>     Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Can Linux be loaded on an old Apple 
>> PowerBook G4
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>>     I wouldn't be surprised if he just wants to get something useful 
>> on it.
>>
>>     Sounds like it's not his main computer anymore... typically 
>> upgrading
>>     software major versions yields a performance decrease, not increase.
>>
>>     Tony, do you know what model your processor is? or maybe just the 
>> clock
>>     speed?
>>
>>     Ubuntu is getting more bloated in new releases and therefore is 
>> not very
>>     friendly on old hardware. You could try it, but if you find it's too
>>     slow after ensuring that your drivers are working correctly, 
>> don't give
>>     up hope.
>>
>>     I would try lubuntu, which is a very lightweight ubuntu derivative.
>>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
>>
>>     Yellow Dog linux might also be a good choice.
>>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Dog_Linux
>>
>>     How to install lubuntu on power pc.
>>     1) download ubuntu alternative or ubuntu minimal for PPC. (See notes
>>     below)
>>     2) install core ubuntu.
>>     3) sudo apt-get update
>>     4) sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>>     5) sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
>>
>>
>>     ubuntu alternative vs ubuntu minimal:
>>     ubuntu-minimal is a netinstall distro. It downloads and installs the
>>     core package on the fly. The problem with this is that it can be
>>     extremely slow with the default repo, and I wouldn't recommend it.
>>
>>     ubuntu-alternative includes the standard ubuntu desktop package, 
>> but you
>>     can choose to not select it. In this case, you'll get the core 
>> package
>>     installed without havng to download it on the fly.
>>     On the other hand, you have to download the 700MB CD.. in which 
>> you only
>>     need like 40MB of it or something
>>
>>     Each method has it's pro/cons, but the outcome is the same.
>>
>>     sources:
>>     1) myself as I've install lubuntu using ubuntu alternative before
>>     2) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1454430
>>
>>
>>
>>     PS: you've inspired me to see if my grandfather still using his G3
>>     ibook.
>>
>>
>>     Hey Karl, it looks like there are 32bit and 64bit
>>
>>     On 7/30/2011 11:29 AM, Karl Schuttler wrote:
>> > Hey Tony. You can definitely load some flavor of linux on it; be sure
>> > to get the PowerPC of the distro you are interested in, ad the G4 has
>> > a PowerPC processor and not a modern one (x86, amd64).
>> >
>> > Ubuntu PowerPC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
>> >
>> > Be aware that Ubuntu stopped officially supporting PowerPC several
>> > major versions ago (7.04 i think? Currently on 11.04), but there is a
>> > community that ports them over.
>> >
>> > But perhaps you are having other issues? Your computer is definitely
>> > outdated, but what benefits do you want from upgrading? I'm not sure
>> > that you'd see a performance increase.
>> >
>> > Karl
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Troy<w8tcc at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:w8tcc at yahoo.com>>  wrote:
>> >> Do you or any of your friends know if linux of any type be
>>     loaded onto an
>> >> apple powerbook G4. The highest software that I can load is
>>     10.4. So this
>> >> apple is almost totally outdated. Being that the subsystem is
>>     somewhat
>> >> linux, (some linux commands work in the terminal mode) I thought
>>     that I
>> >> could possibly put some linux distro on it.
>> >> Thank you Troy Creed
>> >>
>> >> 73 de w8tcc, troy -.-
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