linux-user digest, Vol 1 #118 - 10 msgs

Michael D Dahn dahnmich@pilot.msu.edu
Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:57:59 -0400 (EDT)


Ryan,

The Lansing area Linux User Group has a mailing list tha tI just subscribed to.
 I was reading through it and found a few postings you might be interested in.
>From this Mike Rambo guy.  I think I remember him but just read it.  It's
interesting

-mike d.


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>   1. Re: Printer repair (Paul Melson)
>   2. Re: authenticated user community (Mike Rambo)
>   3. Re: my linux box again (basher584)
>   4. Re: authenticated user community (Paul Melson)
>   5. Fwd: Printer repair (Rocky Lichen)
>   6. No nominations have been announced yet... (Alan Garrison)
>   7. Re: No nominations have been announced yet... (Mike Rambo)
>   8. Re: drilling a hole through a Pentium chip (Nick Lewis)
>   9. Re: authenticated user community (Mike Rambo)
>   10. Re: No nominations have been announced yet... (Sean)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:24:53 -0400
> From: Paul Melson <melson@scnc.holt.k12.mi.us>
> To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: Printer repair
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 11:20:27AM -0400, Mark Szidik - MLC wrote:
> >
> > Anybody got recommendations for a local HP printer repair company?
>
>     SequoiaNET.com, formerly Panurgy Mid-Michigan,
>     formerly Entre.  IMHO, they're the best.  They
>     have HP certified techs on staff.
>
>
> PaulM
>
> --
>                             _____________________
>                             melson@holt.k12.mi.us
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:47:10 -0400
> From: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> To: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: authenticated user community
>
> Paul Melson wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 02:24:29PM -0400, Marcel Kunath wrote:
> > > I ran across this on newsforge.com. I wondered if some of you at the K-12
> > > schools are using this:
> > >
> > > http://auc.sourceforge.net/
> >
> >         We've been running Hawkeye for over 3 years
> >         now for many of the same purposes that AUC is
> >         designed to serve.  It's pretty nice, but
> >         relatively underused except as a substitute
> >         for hotmail.com. :-\
> >
> >         The URL is http://www.hawkeye.net
> >
> > PaulM
> >
> > --
> >                                                         ____________________
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> >                                                         melson@holt.k12.mi.u
s
> >
>
> We have Hawkeye and had started to set it up after seeing it at Holt but
> have basically put it on the back burner as we've found that the higher
> powers are not interested in investigating non-NT solutions.  As I
> recall we were stuck at getting Hawkeye to see MySQL but I don't recall
> for sure.  I do expect to one day get back to it just for the experience
> if nothing else - though I do hope that one day folks will become a
> little more receptive to non-NT solutions (though that might take
> awhile).  I've not seen this particular system before - looks
> interesting though.
>
>
> --
> Mike Rambo
> Media & Electronics Specialist
> Lansing School District
> mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:56:20 -0400
> From: basher584 <basher584@usol.com>
> Reply-To: basher584@usol.com
> To: Alan Garrison <aeg@lbwl.com>
> CC: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: my linux box again
>
> These are the error messages I am getting for the CD-ROM when I try to 'cat' a

> random package in the RPMS directory.  Am I doing something wrong or is it a b
ad
> disc? When I tried installing RH6.9 it would load up but give me the exact sam
e
> thing as Mr. Coffee - When asked to insert the CD-ROM (Which I booted from) it

> said it was not found.  Both of these CD-ROM drives work great for me..  so I
> assumed it was the disk..
>
> -basher584
>
> RH 6.1 on IBM Thinkpad 390 IDE CDROM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdc: command error: error=0x52
> end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1118340
> ATAPI device hdc:
>   Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
>   Logical block address out of range -- (asc=0x21, ascq=0x00)
>
> RH 6.2 on SCSI PlexWriter
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Aug 28 14:57:47 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
> Aug 28 14:57:47 kernel: 0b:00: rw=0, want=562410, limit=413788
> Aug 28 14:57:47 kernel: dev 0b:00 blksize=2048 blocknr=281204 sector=1124816
> size=2048 count=1
>
>
> Alan Garrison wrote:
>
> > If I burn a dud CD for anyone, please let me know
> > and I will (try to) burn another one.  AFAIK, the
> > ISO images I have for RH6.9 are bit-for-bit official
> > (the MD5 sigs match).  The file sizes weren't the
> > full 650 Meg (just around 600), so I don't think
> > the burner burns the sections which do not have
> > data.  I think this is why the CD may look like it
> > was burned incomplete when it actually wasn't.
> >
> > >>> basher584 <basher584@usol.com> 08/24/00 06:11PM >>>
> > I got a couple of bad CD's from Alan -RH 6.9 Beta.. (at least I think they a
re
> > bad.. ) I had pretty much the same problem.  If you look at the CD it doesn'
t
> > seemed to be burned all the way..  Plus if you switch to a different console

> > (Alt - [F1-F5] ) I was getting a kernel message about looking for sector 530
349
> > with limit of 439000 or something weird like that...
> >
> > Basher584
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > linux-user@egr.msu.edu
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:09:23 -0400
> From: Paul Melson <melson@scnc.holt.k12.mi.us>
> To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: authenticated user community
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:46:39PM -0400, Mike Rambo wrote:
> > We have Hawkeye and had started to set it up after seeing it at Holt but
> > have basically put it on the back burner as we've found that the higher
> > powers are not interested in investigating non-NT solutions.  As I
> > recall we were stuck at getting Hawkeye to see MySQL but I don't recall
> > for sure.  I do expect to one day get back to it just for the experience
> > if nothing else - though I do hope that one day folks will become a
> > little more receptive to non-NT solutions (though that might take
> > awhile).  I've not seen this particular system before - looks
> > interesting though.
>
>     That seems like a real shame, especially since
>     you don't need anything special to run it.  Ours
>     is still running on an AMD K6/166 w/ 32MB of RAM,
>     and I would be amazed if the load has ever broken
>     0.10 even w/ the JavaScript chat rooms in use.
>     You could easily throw it on a somewhat sup-ed up
>     486 system, giving you newsgroups, FTP, chat, web
>     space, and e-mail for nothing but the time spent
>     on it.
>
>     On the other hand Linux is very intimidating to
>     those who don't use it because they see long-term
>     support as tenuous, whereas you can't swing a
>     dead penguin without smacking an MCSE or two.
>
>
> PaulM
>
> --
>                             _____________________
>                             melson@holt.k12.mi.us
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>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:30:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rocky Lichen <rockylichen@excite.com>
> To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Fwd: Printer repair
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> >  Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:20:27 -0400 (EDT)
> >  From: Mark Szidik - MLC <szidikm@mlc.lib.mi.us>
> >  To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> >  Subject: Printer repair
> >  Message-ID:
> <Pine.SUN.4.21.0008281119460.28606-100000@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>
> >
> >
> >  Anybody got recommendations for a local HP printer repair company?
> >
> >
> Advanced Business Solutions in DeWitt, 669-3984, has done a lot of work on
> HP printers (mostly high capacity laser) for folks I know and has always
> been honest and reliable.
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >  Mark Szidik
> >  System Administrator           Ph: 517.694.4242 x17  Fax: 517.694.9303
> >  Michigan Library Consortium    http://www.mlc.lib.mi.us
> >
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>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:36:08 -0400
> From: "Alan Garrison" <aeg@lbwl.com>
> To: <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> Subject: No nominations have been announced yet...
>
> Anyone??????  I'd rather not continue as prez from 250 miles away... :)
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:04:58 -0400
> From: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> To: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: No nominations have been announced yet...
>
> Alan Garrison wrote:
> >
> > Anyone??????  I'd rather not continue as prez from 250 miles away... :)
> >
>
> Perhaps it might be a good idea to generate a list of who gllug.org has
> on file as being eligible to participate in the process.  As I haven't
> been to a meeting other than the installfest since they switched away
> from thursday (wed & sun are the two days of the week that are out for
> me) I'm not certain of eligibility as I'm not sure whether it's been
> over six months.  Perhaps others are in this boat?
>
> --
> Mike Rambo
> Media & Electronics Specialist
> Lansing School District
> mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Nick Lewis" <lewisnic@egr.msu.edu>
> To: "Ben Pfaff" <pfaffben@msu.edu>
> Cc: <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>, <wilkinson@pa.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: drilling a hole through a Pentium chip
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:42:48 -0400
> Organization: DECS
>
> I talked to the person who did it, and he said that he used a chisel
> and chiseled along the joints, but he'll probably follow-up with more
> details. Nick.
>
> Nick Lewis
> DECS
> HA! I laugh in the face of free time!
> http://www.sciencetheatre.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Pfaff" <user@cscw.msu.edu>
> To: "Nick Lewis" <lewis@cscw.msu.edu>
> Cc: <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:25 PM
> Subject: Re: drilling a hole through a Pentium chip
>
>
> > "Nick Lewis" <lewis@cscw.msu.edu> writes:
> >
> > > In Science Theatre, one of the guys took the casing off on a
> > > 486, [...]
> >
> > Any idea how?
> >
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:50:24 -0400
> From: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> To: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: authenticated user community
>
> Paul Melson wrote:
> >
> >
> >         That seems like a real shame, especially since
> >         you don't need anything special to run it.  Ours
> >         is still running on an AMD K6/166 w/ 32MB of RAM,
> >         and I would be amazed if the load has ever broken
> >         0.10 even w/ the JavaScript chat rooms in use.
> >         You could easily throw it on a somewhat sup-ed up
> >         486 system, giving you newsgroups, FTP, chat, web
> >         space, and e-mail for nothing but the time spent
> >         on it.
> >
> >         On the other hand Linux is very intimidating to
> >         those who don't use it because they see long-term
> >         support as tenuous, whereas you can't swing a
> >         dead penguin without smacking an MCSE or two.
> >
> > PaulM
> >
> > --
> >                                                         ____________________
_
> >                                                         melson@holt.k12.mi.u
s
> >
>
> You've hit the nail on the head.  The dept head is relying heavily on a
> guy (who knows only NT) for departmental direction.  Last I knew he
> hasn't and isn't planning on actually finishing his degree at MSU but he
> does have the MCSE and Citrix certs (yes Sean - you know him :-).  He
> whined to me when he first came on that the reason he left the Dept of
> Treasury was that they didn't give him the tools he wanted to work
> with.  You combine a guy only willing to work with M$ products with her
> other staff who have no formal computer training (it's all on the job)
> and you have a great deal of resistance - partly from an understandable
> fear - and the rest from bias.  They tend to think of supporting the
> servers from the work we have to do with the NT boxes - and they can
> take quite of bit or work at times.  We've had to reboot most of them
> every few weeks and periodically have other pains.  They should know
> that servers need not be that way as the novell 3.12 servers are MUCH
> more stable in our experience - but then they may associate that
> stability with a command line that is hard to work with.  In any case,
> it IS a shame.  We had gotten permission to install a full Linux server
> as a pilot at Forest View Elementary last spring.  It is done and
> installed but I don't know if it'll last.  It's working great but
> whenever there is a problem of any nature - and we've had numerous with
> the wfw3.11 workstations (long student assisted upgrade story) - her
> first thought is to put NT on the server - go figure.  There's so many
> things we could do very cost effectively but we can't.  They're now
> looking at an exchange server - oh brother.  Half of the buildings are
> mac's.  A lot of good that'll do.  It's very frustrating.
>
>
> --
> Mike Rambo
> Media & Electronics Specialist
> Lansing School District
> mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:02:06 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Sean <picasso@madflower.com>
> To: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> cc: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: No nominations have been announced yet...
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
>
> > Alan Garrison wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone??????  I'd rather not continue as prez from 250 miles away... :)
> > >
> >
> > Perhaps it might be a good idea to generate a list of who gllug.org has
> > on file as being eligible to participate in the process.  As I haven't
> > been to a meeting other than the installfest since they switched away
> > from thursday (wed & sun are the two days of the week that are out for
> > me) I'm not certain of eligibility as I'm not sure whether it's been
> > over six months.  Perhaps others are in this boat?
> >
> Im close i think I have been to one maybe two since installfest. But it's
> more because I have been insanely busy, then the meeting days..
>
>
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