linux-user digest, Vol 1 #118 - 10 msgs

Sean picasso@madflower.com
Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:55:12 -0400 (EDT)


Ryan should probably just subscribe although he might get a little lost..


On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Michael D Dahn wrote:

> 
> Ryan,
> 
> The Lansing area Linux User Group has a mailing list tha tI just subscribed to.
>  I was reading through it and found a few postings you might be interested in.
> >From this Mike Rambo guy.  I think I remember him but just read it.  It's
> interesting
> 
> -mike d.
> 
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> > Today's Topics:
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> >   1. Re: Printer repair (Paul Melson)
> >   2. Re: authenticated user community (Mike Rambo)
> >   3. Re: my linux box again (basher584)
> >   4. Re: authenticated user community (Paul Melson)
> >   5. Fwd: Printer repair (Rocky Lichen)
> >   6. No nominations have been announced yet... (Alan Garrison)
> >   7. Re: No nominations have been announced yet... (Mike Rambo)
> >   8. Re: drilling a hole through a Pentium chip (Nick Lewis)
> >   9. Re: authenticated user community (Mike Rambo)
> >   10. Re: No nominations have been announced yet... (Sean)
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:24:53 -0400
> > From: Paul Melson <melson@scnc.holt.k12.mi.us>
> > To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> > Subject: Re: Printer repair
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 11:20:27AM -0400, Mark Szidik - MLC wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody got recommendations for a local HP printer repair company?
> >
> >     SequoiaNET.com, formerly Panurgy Mid-Michigan,
> >     formerly Entre.  IMHO, they're the best.  They
> >     have HP certified techs on staff.
> >
> >
> > PaulM
> >
> > --
> >                             _____________________
> >                             melson@holt.k12.mi.us
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:47:10 -0400
> > From: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> > To: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: authenticated user community
> >
> > Paul Melson wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 02:24:29PM -0400, Marcel Kunath wrote:
> > > > I ran across this on newsforge.com. I wondered if some of you at the K-12
> > > > schools are using this:
> > > >
> > > > http://auc.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > >         We've been running Hawkeye for over 3 years
> > >         now for many of the same purposes that AUC is
> > >         designed to serve.  It's pretty nice, but
> > >         relatively underused except as a substitute
> > >         for hotmail.com. :-\
> > >
> > >         The URL is http://www.hawkeye.net
> > >
> > > PaulM
> > >
> > > --
> > >                                                         ____________________
> _
> > >                                                         melson@holt.k12.mi.u
> s
> > >
> >
> > We have Hawkeye and had started to set it up after seeing it at Holt but
> > have basically put it on the back burner as we've found that the higher
> > powers are not interested in investigating non-NT solutions.  As I
> > recall we were stuck at getting Hawkeye to see MySQL but I don't recall
> > for sure.  I do expect to one day get back to it just for the experience
> > if nothing else - though I do hope that one day folks will become a
> > little more receptive to non-NT solutions (though that might take
> > awhile).  I've not seen this particular system before - looks
> > interesting though.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Rambo
> > Media & Electronics Specialist
> > Lansing School District
> > mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:56:20 -0400
> > From: basher584 <basher584@usol.com>
> > Reply-To: basher584@usol.com
> > To: Alan Garrison <aeg@lbwl.com>
> > CC: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> > Subject: Re: my linux box again
> >
> > These are the error messages I am getting for the CD-ROM when I try to 'cat' a
> 
> > random package in the RPMS directory.  Am I doing something wrong or is it a b
> ad
> > disc? When I tried installing RH6.9 it would load up but give me the exact sam
> e
> > thing as Mr. Coffee - When asked to insert the CD-ROM (Which I booted from) it
> 
> > said it was not found.  Both of these CD-ROM drives work great for me..  so I
> > assumed it was the disk..
> >
> > -basher584
> >
> > RH 6.1 on IBM Thinkpad 390 IDE CDROM
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > hdc: command error: error=0x52
> > end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1118340
> > ATAPI device hdc:
> >   Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
> >   Logical block address out of range -- (asc=0x21, ascq=0x00)
> >
> > RH 6.2 on SCSI PlexWriter
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Aug 28 14:57:47 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
> > Aug 28 14:57:47 kernel: 0b:00: rw=0, want=562410, limit=413788
> > Aug 28 14:57:47 kernel: dev 0b:00 blksize=2048 blocknr=281204 sector=1124816
> > size=2048 count=1
> >
> >
> > Alan Garrison wrote:
> >
> > > If I burn a dud CD for anyone, please let me know
> > > and I will (try to) burn another one.  AFAIK, the
> > > ISO images I have for RH6.9 are bit-for-bit official
> > > (the MD5 sigs match).  The file sizes weren't the
> > > full 650 Meg (just around 600), so I don't think
> > > the burner burns the sections which do not have
> > > data.  I think this is why the CD may look like it
> > > was burned incomplete when it actually wasn't.
> > >
> > > >>> basher584 <basher584@usol.com> 08/24/00 06:11PM >>>
> > > I got a couple of bad CD's from Alan -RH 6.9 Beta.. (at least I think they a
> re
> > > bad.. ) I had pretty much the same problem.  If you look at the CD it doesn'
> t
> > > seemed to be burned all the way..  Plus if you switch to a different console
> 
> > > (Alt - [F1-F5] ) I was getting a kernel message about looking for sector 530
> 349
> > > with limit of 439000 or something weird like that...
> > >
> > > Basher584
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > linux-user mailing list
> > > linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> > > http://www.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:09:23 -0400
> > From: Paul Melson <melson@scnc.holt.k12.mi.us>
> > To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> > Subject: Re: authenticated user community
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:46:39PM -0400, Mike Rambo wrote:
> > > We have Hawkeye and had started to set it up after seeing it at Holt but
> > > have basically put it on the back burner as we've found that the higher
> > > powers are not interested in investigating non-NT solutions.  As I
> > > recall we were stuck at getting Hawkeye to see MySQL but I don't recall
> > > for sure.  I do expect to one day get back to it just for the experience
> > > if nothing else - though I do hope that one day folks will become a
> > > little more receptive to non-NT solutions (though that might take
> > > awhile).  I've not seen this particular system before - looks
> > > interesting though.
> >
> >     That seems like a real shame, especially since
> >     you don't need anything special to run it.  Ours
> >     is still running on an AMD K6/166 w/ 32MB of RAM,
> >     and I would be amazed if the load has ever broken
> >     0.10 even w/ the JavaScript chat rooms in use.
> >     You could easily throw it on a somewhat sup-ed up
> >     486 system, giving you newsgroups, FTP, chat, web
> >     space, and e-mail for nothing but the time spent
> >     on it.
> >
> >     On the other hand Linux is very intimidating to
> >     those who don't use it because they see long-term
> >     support as tenuous, whereas you can't swing a
> >     dead penguin without smacking an MCSE or two.
> >
> >
> > PaulM
> >
> > --
> >                             _____________________
> >                             melson@holt.k12.mi.us
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:30:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rocky Lichen <rockylichen@excite.com>
> > To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> > Subject: Fwd: Printer repair
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:20:27 -0400 (EDT)
> > >  From: Mark Szidik - MLC <szidikm@mlc.lib.mi.us>
> > >  To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
> > >  Subject: Printer repair
> > >  Message-ID:
> > <Pine.SUN.4.21.0008281119460.28606-100000@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us>
> > >
> > >
> > >  Anybody got recommendations for a local HP printer repair company?
> > >
> > >
> > Advanced Business Solutions in DeWitt, 669-3984, has done a lot of work on
> > HP printers (mostly high capacity laser) for folks I know and has always
> > been honest and reliable.
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > >  Mark Szidik
> > >  System Administrator           Ph: 517.694.4242 x17  Fax: 517.694.9303
> > >  Michigan Library Consortium    http://www.mlc.lib.mi.us
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:36:08 -0400
> > From: "Alan Garrison" <aeg@lbwl.com>
> > To: <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> > Subject: No nominations have been announced yet...
> >
> > Anyone??????  I'd rather not continue as prez from 250 miles away... :)
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:04:58 -0400
> > From: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> > To: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: No nominations have been announced yet...
> >
> > Alan Garrison wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone??????  I'd rather not continue as prez from 250 miles away... :)
> > >
> >
> > Perhaps it might be a good idea to generate a list of who gllug.org has
> > on file as being eligible to participate in the process.  As I haven't
> > been to a meeting other than the installfest since they switched away
> > from thursday (wed & sun are the two days of the week that are out for
> > me) I'm not certain of eligibility as I'm not sure whether it's been
> > over six months.  Perhaps others are in this boat?
> >
> > --
> > Mike Rambo
> > Media & Electronics Specialist
> > Lansing School District
> > mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 8
> > From: "Nick Lewis" <lewisnic@egr.msu.edu>
> > To: "Ben Pfaff" <pfaffben@msu.edu>
> > Cc: <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>, <wilkinson@pa.msu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: drilling a hole through a Pentium chip
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:42:48 -0400
> > Organization: DECS
> >
> > I talked to the person who did it, and he said that he used a chisel
> > and chiseled along the joints, but he'll probably follow-up with more
> > details. Nick.
> >
> > Nick Lewis
> > DECS
> > HA! I laugh in the face of free time!
> > http://www.sciencetheatre.org
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ben Pfaff" <user@cscw.msu.edu>
> > To: "Nick Lewis" <lewis@cscw.msu.edu>
> > Cc: <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: drilling a hole through a Pentium chip
> >
> >
> > > "Nick Lewis" <lewis@cscw.msu.edu> writes:
> > >
> > > > In Science Theatre, one of the guys took the casing off on a
> > > > 486, [...]
> > >
> > > Any idea how?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:50:24 -0400
> > From: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> > To: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: authenticated user community
> >
> > Paul Melson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >         That seems like a real shame, especially since
> > >         you don't need anything special to run it.  Ours
> > >         is still running on an AMD K6/166 w/ 32MB of RAM,
> > >         and I would be amazed if the load has ever broken
> > >         0.10 even w/ the JavaScript chat rooms in use.
> > >         You could easily throw it on a somewhat sup-ed up
> > >         486 system, giving you newsgroups, FTP, chat, web
> > >         space, and e-mail for nothing but the time spent
> > >         on it.
> > >
> > >         On the other hand Linux is very intimidating to
> > >         those who don't use it because they see long-term
> > >         support as tenuous, whereas you can't swing a
> > >         dead penguin without smacking an MCSE or two.
> > >
> > > PaulM
> > >
> > > --
> > >                                                         ____________________
> _
> > >                                                         melson@holt.k12.mi.u
> s
> > >
> >
> > You've hit the nail on the head.  The dept head is relying heavily on a
> > guy (who knows only NT) for departmental direction.  Last I knew he
> > hasn't and isn't planning on actually finishing his degree at MSU but he
> > does have the MCSE and Citrix certs (yes Sean - you know him :-).  He
> > whined to me when he first came on that the reason he left the Dept of
> > Treasury was that they didn't give him the tools he wanted to work
> > with.  You combine a guy only willing to work with M$ products with her
> > other staff who have no formal computer training (it's all on the job)
> > and you have a great deal of resistance - partly from an understandable
> > fear - and the rest from bias.  They tend to think of supporting the
> > servers from the work we have to do with the NT boxes - and they can
> > take quite of bit or work at times.  We've had to reboot most of them
> > every few weeks and periodically have other pains.  They should know
> > that servers need not be that way as the novell 3.12 servers are MUCH
> > more stable in our experience - but then they may associate that
> > stability with a command line that is hard to work with.  In any case,
> > it IS a shame.  We had gotten permission to install a full Linux server
> > as a pilot at Forest View Elementary last spring.  It is done and
> > installed but I don't know if it'll last.  It's working great but
> > whenever there is a problem of any nature - and we've had numerous with
> > the wfw3.11 workstations (long student assisted upgrade story) - her
> > first thought is to put NT on the server - go figure.  There's so many
> > things we could do very cost effectively but we can't.  They're now
> > looking at an exchange server - oh brother.  Half of the buildings are
> > mac's.  A lot of good that'll do.  It's very frustrating.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Rambo
> > Media & Electronics Specialist
> > Lansing School District
> > mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:02:06 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Sean <picasso@madflower.com>
> > To: Mike Rambo <mrambo@lsd.k12.mi.us>
> > cc: GLLUG <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: No nominations have been announced yet...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
> >
> > > Alan Garrison wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone??????  I'd rather not continue as prez from 250 miles away... :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps it might be a good idea to generate a list of who gllug.org has
> > > on file as being eligible to participate in the process.  As I haven't
> > > been to a meeting other than the installfest since they switched away
> > > from thursday (wed & sun are the two days of the week that are out for
> > > me) I'm not certain of eligibility as I'm not sure whether it's been
> > > over six months.  Perhaps others are in this boat?
> > >
> > Im close i think I have been to one maybe two since installfest. But it's
> > more because I have been insanely busy, then the meeting days..
> >
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
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