linux as a workstation

Sean picasso@madflower.com
Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:03:31 -0400 (EDT)


On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 Paul_Melson@keykertusa.com wrote:

> >bwah?? IPX broadcasts, samba broadcasts, from everything I have read
> >Appletalk is less resource intensive then either of the other two
> >protocals.
> >
> >They made this change about 3 years ago, and it _doesn't_
> >affect older clients, IE you need to be running system 8.1+ or else you
> >will encounter the problems, I thought they added encryption to it, and
> >you can use it on a network with only IP available. Cisco supports zones
> >and routing of the protocal.
>
> AppleShare/IP != Appletalk
> The two are not compatible.

You got here. =) since you are referring to Appletalk as a transport
layer which include localtalk, ethertalk, and AppleShare would be the
filesharing protocal which is used on top of it. I assume we were talking
about filesharing, since that was the original question.

> And, unless the netatalk package has been
> updated to work with AppleShare/IP, it's still SAP-only atalk.

Netatalk has supported Appleshare/IP since about 6 months from the day it
Apple started supporting it what 3 years ago with system 8.1, and actually
copstalk and a few others supported it years before Apple ever did.

> And, FWIW,
> Appletalk is far more chatty and far less scalable than IPX or SMB/IP.

Not true. As I said before they _changed the chattiness of Ethertalk
(appletalk over ethernet) so in fact it was less chatty than both IPX and
Windows SMB or even depends on how you want to look at the numbers. Both
Novell and Windows did upgrade their stuff after Apple released it though.

FWIW SMB/IP is like saying AppleShare/IP minus what printing?

> True, it can be routed, but it uses a "zone" paradigm, which is similar to
> IPX's network number.  Each system is configured as part of a zone (or
> left to SAP for a zone), and then it becomes a naming suffix.  It's an
> additional feature that has to be configured for it to work.

It is true it is not scalable as far as hierachachel domains since I
believe Appletalk only supports 3 levels. But it still suffices for small
home networks and it is rather easy to use and it can be used for
serial, ethernet, internet for sharing files.