[Re: piracy and oss]

Keyes, Randall randall.keyes@jnli.com
Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:36:59 -0400


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Randy Keyes
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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel R . Kilbourne [mailto:drk@voyager.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:21 PM
To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
Subject: Re: [Re: piracy and oss]


Can you say dead horse? *thwack*


Edward Glowacki extolled:
> What I would prefer is a more flexible pricing scheme.  Say I really
> like Windows Commander ($28 shareware), and I think it's worth $50
> to me.  I pay $50 and get the rights to use it.  Now say you kinda
> like Windows Commander, but you only think it's worth $30.  Then
> there's Person X, who uses it once in a while, and thinks it's only
> worth $5.  If you set the price hard at $30, you get 2 sales for
> $60 total.  If you went with a $30 suggested price, but didn't
> require it, you could get 3 sales for $85 total.=20

No offense, but did you grow up in a fairy tale land? I know of pretty =
much
no one that would pay more than suggested, let alone required, for =
anything.
I really like Corvettes, and would be willing (if I could afford it) to
shell out the $45000 or so to get one. But, show me a Corvette that =
says
"MSRP $45000, please pay at least $10000, but all offers are accepted," =
and
you damn well know I would give the dealer $1 and drive my ass home in =
the
best deal ever on a new Corvette.


>=20
> An interesting side note here.  If someone downloads some shareware
> and starts using it, what happens at the end of 30 days when their
> "time is up"?  Well, they're going to either a. delete it as you
> asked, b. continue to use it for free anyways, or c. pay you and
> continue to use it.  All three options cost you exactly the same,
> since they already used your bandwidth to download the software,
> browse the online docs, etc.  However, the more people you can get
> into category c, the more you can make back.

>=20
> I'll write up some more later... =3D)
>=20
> --=20
> Edward Glowacki				glowack2@msu.edu
> GLLUG Peon  				http://www.gllug.org
> Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality.
>                 -- Jules de Gaultier
>=20
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Randy Keyes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Network Services, JNL</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Daniel R . Kilbourne [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:drk@voyager.net">mailto:drk@voyager.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:21 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Re: piracy and oss]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Can you say dead horse? *thwack*</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Edward Glowacki extolled:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; What I would prefer is a more flexible pricing =
scheme.&nbsp; Say I really</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; like Windows Commander ($28 shareware), and I =
think it's worth $50</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; to me.&nbsp; I pay $50 and get the rights to =
use it.&nbsp; Now say you kinda</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; like Windows Commander, but you only think it's =
worth $30.&nbsp; Then</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; there's Person X, who uses it once in a while, =
and thinks it's only</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; worth $5.&nbsp; If you set the price hard at =
$30, you get 2 sales for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $60 total.&nbsp; If you went with a $30 =
suggested price, but didn't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; require it, you could get 3 sales for $85 =
total. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>No offense, but did you grow up in a fairy tale land? =
I know of pretty much no one that would pay more than suggested, let =
alone required, for anything. I really like Corvettes, and would be =
willing (if I could afford it) to shell out the $45000 or so to get =
one. But, show me a Corvette that says &quot;MSRP $45000, please pay at =
least $10000, but all offers are accepted,&quot; and you damn well know =
I would give the dealer $1 and drive my ass home in the best deal ever =
on a new Corvette.</FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; An interesting side note here.&nbsp; If someone =
downloads some shareware</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and starts using it, what happens at the end of =
30 days when their</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &quot;time is up&quot;?&nbsp; Well, they're =
going to either a. delete it as you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; asked, b. continue to use it for free anyways, =
or c. pay you and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; continue to use it.&nbsp; All three options =
cost you exactly the same,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; since they already used your bandwidth to =
download the software,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; browse the online docs, etc.&nbsp; However, the =
more people you can get</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; into category c, the more you can make =
back.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I'll write up some more later... =3D)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Edward =
Glowacki&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; glowack2@msu.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; GLLUG Peon&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.gllug.org" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.gllug.org</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Imagination is the one weapon in the war =
against reality.</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- Jules de Gaultier</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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