[GLLUG] more Penguicon thoughts

Caleb Cushing xenoterracide at gmail.com
Tue Apr 24 19:52:29 EDT 2007


I agree with Clay. I think no babysitting is necessary and gaming should
stay in the lounge. but we can try to keep the screens from being viewed
from the chaos area.

On 4/24/07, Clay Dowling <clay at lazarusid.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a wild and crazy thought:  Let's not substitute our judgement for
> the judgement of the child's parents.  This didn't look like it was a
> place that kids could get to without their parents bringing them.  I
> didn't seem schools next door, or convenient sidewalks to residential
> neighborhoods.
>
> If the child managed to get into the convention, it stands to reason
> that their parents know they're here.  It would be pretty difficult to
> imagine that the parents didn't know what the place was like.  There are
> warnings all over the web site and the program that stuff gets pretty
> strong.  They should also work that out pretty quickly when they see the
> cross-dressers walking around in the daylight (there were at least two).
>
> If the parents have a problem with this kind of content, they've already
> left long before they have let their child run loose and unattended in
> the computer lounge.  The parent who does that has made an assessment
> that it's a safe environment for their kid.
>
> You personally might not be comfortable with children seeing that kind
> of content, and in that case I would strongly suggest not bringing your
> own children if you have any.  But I don't think that it's a good idea
> to make that decision for other people's children.  As a step-father
> I've had to learn to walk that delicate line on a pretty much daily basis.
>
> Clay
>
>
> Richard Houser wrote:
> > Exactly, it's all a matter of censorship and liability.  Whether it
> > would stand up in court or not, I'd rather Penguicon not end up in a
> > legal battle over something a kid did or saw while at Penguicon.  I was
> > shooting for the same type of thing, but picked 13 as that was the age
> > given in the Penguicon materials for age appropriateness.  Personally,
> > I'd be all for bumping that up to 16 or so, but I was just basing it off
> > the verbiage existing rules.  Eighteen seems too old of a limit to me,
> > as a 16 year old could legally create offspring of his/her own.
> >
> > Perhaps we could get Penguicon to require permission slips and issue
> > different badge colors to minors?  I.e., someone cannot enter with a
> > blue badge (minor) unless accompanied with a green badge (adult).  Those
> >  16+ (or whatever age) with parents requesting unrestricted access get
> > an orange badge.
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Caleb Cushing
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