[GLLUG] desktop freezing??

Karl Schuttler rexykik at gmail.com
Thu Nov 29 11:14:15 EST 2007

You can get a decent power supply these days for 30, 40 bucks. Just
throw a little money at the problem and see if it fixes it. If it
turns out to be not the case (gadunst), you'll have a powersupply
handy for when one of the ones you have being used dies in the next
six months.

On Nov 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Sean O'Malley <picasso at madflower.com> wrote:
> It sounds like your power supply might not be big enough to handle the
> bigger drive. It could be a bad board or bad caps, etc. and stuff that has
> already been mentioned.
> To throw some other things out on the "possibility" list because they are
> "odd" errors.
> I had an issue with a series of USB 1.1 cards where one port put itself to
> sleep it was after like 30 minutes, and you could be in the middle of
> typing something, and just flat out went to sleep. my keyboard and mouse
> were connected to it, so basically it felt like the windowing system hung.
> By switching the USB ports the keyboard and mouse were it fixed the issue.
> It was literally a hardware issue and I had to send the card back. It was
> a whole chipset series that was bad which was OEM'd to various venders.
> (the black screen maybe because the card went to sleep, the system thinks
> it is there and is trying to talk to that device, but it is timing out.)
> This might appear if you switched where the usb cables were plugged in
> while adding/swapping out the drive. You might try swapping around the
> cables.
> If it isn't enough power to the USB devices, as the USB bus can only
> handle 500mA of current per controller, you might try a powered USB hub if
> none of your devices are actually powered. Most 4-port usb cards are two
> controllers with a two port hub so ports 1-2 use controller A, and 3-4 use
> controller B.  If you switched cables around, the current draw per
> controller also changed.
> Along the sleep issue lines, sometimes drives will put themselves to
> sleep. You might be trying to access say a screen saver on a drive that
> went to bed on ya and the system can't wake it up. This is a usually a
> scsi issue.
> It could be memory issue usually those are only consistant errors during
> startup on linux, where you are loading programs in memory exactly the
> same way everytime. An easy way to test this is to swap memory card slots.
> It may not have appeared before because you wen't actually USING that
> memory. IE you loaded a driver for a worm drive into the bad ram.  Since
> you added a bigger drive, the in memory cache may have increased thus
> shifting where everything is/was loaded in memory.
> A similar issue is where your drivers are loaded on your drive. You might
> be using a "new" driver that was written to a bad sector on the drive.
> Most of this stuff shows up in the logs in one form or another.
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Michael Rudas wrote:
> > Benjamin Cathey wrote:
> >
> > > As far as Power Supplies go - the more wattage the better, correct?
> > >  The system will only draw what it needs, right?  Or am I remembering wrong?
> >
> > Mostly right.  The efficiency and power factor ratings of
> > higher-wattage PSs is kinda variable, but differences are (usually)
> > minor, especially for quality units.  A 400W PS would not be overkill;
> > an 800-watt one would.  I still think the PS is the problem, but check
> > the caps, as well.
> >
> > > I figured Linux would have a message somewhere if the problem was overheating though.
> >
> > It was only a suggestion based on experience.  Linux can't read ALL
> > thermal-monitor ICs, unfortunately -- but the BIOS can.
> >
> > ~~ Mikey
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