[GLLUG] content filtering

Michael George george at idealso.com
Thu Apr 3 08:08:24 EDT 2008


No, I don't have a problem child.  I'm mostly just trying to minimize
chances of them accidentally stumbling to things we don't want them to
find.

I am just trying to understand all I can about the issue.

On Thu, April 3, 2008 3:06 am, Richard Houser wrote:
> Only if you allow access to non-standard ports...  It sounds like you
> have a problem child here.  As far as firewall rules, think blocked by
> default, not the other way around...
>
> Michael George wrote:
>> The off-site proxy servers also run on non-standard ports, too, so the
>> firewall rules for transparent proxying would also be circumvented,
>> right?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, March 31, 2008 6:07 pm, Nathan Hartley wrote:
>>>> It's time I get more serious about content filtering at home, now that
>>>> my
>>> kids are able to get online.
>>>
>>> I am interested in this as well...
>>>
>>> I have five children and have been struggling through a similar
>>> situation
>>> for a while now. My oldest despises restrictions, you know things like
>>> "do
>>> not installing malware", "do not enter random URLs i.e.
>>> www.YourSistersName.com", "do not enter your entire life history into
>>> every
>>> survey you find on the net" and "do not use web proxies". Though she
>>> did
>>> get
>>> a lesson once when one of the web proxies used her MySpace credentials
>>> to
>>> vandalize her profile.
>>>
>>> For me, it not just about protecting my children, it is also about
>>> protecting my PCs and home network. And besides, I believe it is
>>> irresponsible for parents not draw a line somewhere on these issues.
>>>
>>> I have ran DansGuardian on an old machine but it was way too slow and I
>>> had
>>> to "tweak" it often too prevent false positives and negatives. I have
>>> heard
>>> rumor that it is possible to pay to receive category lists, which might
>>> help
>>> with the accuracy. I had plans to turn an old server into an Astaro
>>> gateway
>>> server, as they offer the software and updates free for home use, but
>>> after
>>> wrestling with it several times and again just this last weekend, the
>>> machine appears to be incompatible with their installer. With no error
>>> messages, I am guessing the old RAID controller is giving it fits.
>>>
>>> Right now our main PC, which has to run Windows for various reasons, is
>>> in
>>> the living room near the kitchen and is running the free K9 Web
>>> Protection.
>>> Our Ubuntu "homework" PC in the basement is locked down to a select few
>>> sites using Dan's Guardian.
>>>
>>> I am thinking I may have to invest in a decent, low energy, machine to
>>> setup
>>> as a content filter or install Dan's Guardian on my MythBuntu box.
>>>
>>> As far as OpenDNS, it works, but is easily defeated by using using IP
>>> address. Which wouldn't block my daughter from using a list of web
>>> proxy
>>> sites IP addresses she got in computer class.
>>>
>>> In the end I am looking for a centrally managed filter that doesn't get
>>> in
>>> the way and causes my wife and kids to look for back doors (which are
>>> often
>>> just as dangerous as the sites they may stumble across).
>>>
>>>
>>> Astaro
>>> http://www.astaro.com/our_products/astaro_security_gateway/software_applianc
>>> e
>>>
>>> Another Astaro-like option
>>> http://www.clarkconnect.com/info/features.php
>>>
>>> Blue Coat K9 Web Protection
>>> http://www.k9webprotection.com/
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu
>>> [mailto:linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu]
>>> On Behalf Of Michael George
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:16 PM
>>> To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
>>> Subject: [GLLUG] content filtering
>>>
>>> It's time I get more serious about content filtering at home, now that
>>> my
>>> kids are able to get online.
>>>
>>> I know there is the dansguardian/squid proxy filter, but I don't want
>>> to
>>> jump immediately to an approach that requires another computer.  I use
>>> LTSP for myself and for the kids, so we're all on the same system
>>> (therefore I can't just use mine as the proxy server).
>>>
>>> I've heard of OpenDNS for DNS-level filtering, but I'm not sure if that
>>> will have some loopholes that I hadn't though of...
>>>
>>> I should have thought ahead more when I got my router.  I put in a
>>> Linksys
>>> WRT54GL running dd-wrt just recently.  I'm happy with it so far, and it
>>> will facilitate a transparent proxy, but it doesn't implement one.
>>> Since
>>> I only use it for basic router and firewall tasks, it would be nice to
>>> have a content filtering proxy built into it.
>>>
>>> Anyone here have opinions/advice?  Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Michael George
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>>
>>
>> -Michael George
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