[GLLUG] Re:Network Neutrality

[Brendan Bartlett]

The thing that's always confused me about the "big bandwidth hogs should pay
more" argument is this:  Aren't the "big bandwidth hogs" already paying for
their bandwidth?  What other business in the world charges more for using
their product in quantity?  "Sir, although you pay the toll on this toll
road for every vehicle the same as everyone else you use it far more than
most people so we are going to charge you more because we are money grubbing
bastards."

Plus it's not like Google et al is broadcasting their data to the network at
large, people request the data from them.  Aren't the people requesting the
data also paying for the bandwidth?

So by my casual figuring isn't the bandwidth used by the "big bandwidth
hogs" already paid for twice?  Once by the "hog" and once by the requester?

Didn't the "fortune" that was spent building the networks come from the
revenue streams generated by the fees end-users and "big bandwidth hogs"
pay?  Plus, AT&T and Verizon Communications *own* the network.  We pay
strictly for the time we get to use the network but they get to keep the
cash cow and suck money off of it forever.

Where is the error in my logic?

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> From: "Stanley C. Mortel" <mortel at cyber-nos.com>
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> I realize this is semi-OT, but the issue is clearly important and is a
> close cousin to FOSS.
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> http://www1.sans.edu/resources/leadershiplab/network_neutrality.php
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> It is well worth the read.  Some excerpts:
>
> AT&T and Verizon Communications announced their desire in 2006 to create a
> tiered Internet system that would require big bandwidth hogs like Google
> or
> Yahoo to pay more for their access
>
> The network builders are spending a fortune constructing and maintaining
> the networks that Google intends to ride on with nothing but cheap
> servers.
>
> Fundamentally, net neutrality is about equal access to the Internet.
>
> Vinton Cerf, a man who really did help invent the Internet, gave the
> following testimony, "Allowing broadband carriers to control what people
> see and do online would fundamentally undermine the principles that have
> made the Internet such a success. For the foreseeable future most
> Americans
> will face little choice among broadband carriers. Enshrining a rule that
> permits carriers to discriminate in favor of certain kinds or sources of
> services would place those carriers in control of online activity."
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