[GLLUG] Anyone with experience with Macs and AirPort Extreme?

Mon Jun 16 11:43:53 EDT 2008

Im cheap I guess. I would try changing the firmware on the router first.

Weren't those the routers that had like 1/2 as much ram as the G series
and a few other shortcuts to drop the price?

I am just thinking if you are trying to squeeze a gui and software on a
smaller space, you might actually drop a few things along the way just to
squeeze it on.

The fact it doesnt really work with 10.4 (it is flaky) and it doesnt work
at all with 10.5 and other people are just having flaky issues with 10.5,
leads me to think something else might be wrong. I would triple check my
configs and make sure im running the latest known to work version of the
firmware.

I have also heard of numerous issues with dd-wrt and people have switched
to openwrt.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Michael George wrote:

> That is actually what I'm leaning towards.  I just hadn't looked into
> which ones were compatible with 10.5 yet.
>
> On Mon, June 16, 2008 7:33 am, Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
> > another solution is to use a USB wireless adapter, Blekin and DLink
> > both make Mac compatible a/b/g cards
> >
> > On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Michael George wrote:
> >
> >> Well, what I found is that there are a lot of networking problems with
> >> 10.5.  Most of what I found had to do with extremely poor performance
> >> and continuously dropped connections.  One post in particular said
> >> that
> >> the Airport Extreme devices were no longer playing well with Cicso
> >> WAPs.
> >>  Whether the "cisco problem" extends into their Linksys
> >> acquisitions, I
> >> do not know.
> >>
> >> My router is working fine, and I don't have any plans to change it.
> >> If
> >> I had a greater need for the Mini to work I might try OpenWRT, or even
> >> go back to the Linksys Firmware for the WRT54G...
> >>
> >> Given that the 10.4 systems and WinXP were no-effort connections, I am
> >> inclined to blame Apple and I am hoping that a future update might
> >> resolve the issue.
> >>
> >> Karl Schuttler wrote:
> >>> It might be worthwhile to see if the problem exists in OpenWRT,
> >>> another linux firmware for the WRT line. OpenWRT isn't tough,
> >>> especially if you've done any networking in linux, but it is mostly
> >>> command line (no web gui out of the box). It may be the easiest
> >>> migration to make it work, if you find that others aren't running
> >>> into
> >>> this issue.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Michael George
> >>> <george at idealso.com> wrote:
> >>>> Yes, those bastards.  This is not an isolated dd-wrt issue, it has
> >>>> been
> >>>> happening to many people with the Airport Extreme devices under
> >>>> 10.5.
> >>>> It was a problem at 10.5.1 (but not under 10.4) and still is now.
> >>>> They
> >>>> aren't giving it attention because they made it work with their
> >>>> WAPs.
> >>>> If it doesn't work with Ciscos, they don't seem to care.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have connected my iBook (10.4) with no hesitation.  I have
> >>>> connected
> >>>> Windows XP with no problem.  The software running in dd-wrt is in
> >>>> very
> >>>> wide use and I'm sure if there were problems with it meeting the
> >>>> standards of 802.11b/g, they would get fixed.  However, Apple
> >>>> adopted an
> >>>> unfinished (beta) spec (802.11n) and put it into production
> >>>> hardware.
> >>>> Internal to the computer, no less.  When it isn't backwards
> >>>> compatible
> >>>> their best answer (not that they gave one) is "spend several
> >>>> hundred $$
> >>>> and get one of *our* WAPs".
> >>>>
> >>>> If you think dd-wrt is such junk, then why don't you download the
> >>>> latest
> >>>> linksys firmware and install it on your router?  When you do, please
> >>>> tell me if your problem goes away...
> >>>>
> >>>> Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
> >>>>> Those bastards? I blame your crappy Open Source driven router, I
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> the same issue with my WRT54GL w/ DD-WRT is junk too... You get
> >>>>> what u
> >>>>> pay for...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Michael George wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, no go on either of these.  I can set up an ad-hoc network
> >>>>>> with my
> >>>>>> iBook and an original AirPort card (802.11b?), but it keeps
> >>>>>> getting
> >>>>>> connection timeouts to the Linksys/dd-wrt WAP.  I am not about
> >>>>>> to spend
> >>>>>> $300 for a Apple WAP to connect this thing.  Those bastards make
> >>>>>> incompatible hard/firmware and expect me to spend more $$ on
> >>>>>> them?  No
> >>>>>> way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sean O'Malley wrote:
> >>>>>>> It doesnt really seem to be a related issue, but the early 2006
> >>>>>>> minis
> >>>>>>> have a firmware update for them. It is called
> >>>>>>> Apple Mac mini early 2006 SMC Firmware
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A more related fix would be:
> >>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>> from http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4993837
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alright, so we know that after updated to 10.5.2 people were
> >>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>> having
> >>>>>>> trouble with Airport. I was one of them, and I figured it out.
> >>>>>>> Here is
> >>>>>>> what I did:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1. Navigate to Library\Preferences\SystemConfiguration
> >>>>>>> 2. Locate com.apple.airport.preferences.plist
> >>>>>>> 3. Drag it to trash
> >>>>>>> 4. Hit the spotlight, type in "Keychain Access"
> >>>>>>> a) Remove all passwords to every network
> >>>>>>> *now I don't know if that's necessary, but I did it, and it
> >>>>>>> worked*
> >>>>>>> 5. Restart Leopard
> >>>>>>> 6. Connect to a network and you should be problem free
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> By deleting com.apple.airport.preferences.plist and restarting
> >>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>> system, you are allowing Leopard to create the new 10.5.2 file.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My theory is, is that the two conflicted with each other so it
> >>>>>>> wasn't
> >>>>>>> copied properly, and thats why some people had the problem and
> >>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>> didn't.
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> my guess is you just need to axe the password to the airport.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That at least lets you start the config from scratch. :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sean
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> -M
> >>>>>>
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