[GLLUG] Anyone with experience with Macs and AirPort Extreme?

Michael George george at idealso.com
Mon Jun 16 11:53:08 EDT 2008


The GL has more RAM than the current G's do, not less.

I haven't had *any* problems at all with 10.4, only with 10.5.

On Mon, June 16, 2008 11:43 am, Sean O'Malley wrote:
> Im cheap I guess. I would try changing the firmware on the router first.
>
> Weren't those the routers that had like 1/2 as much ram as the G series
> and a few other shortcuts to drop the price?
>
> I am just thinking if you are trying to squeeze a gui and software on a
> smaller space, you might actually drop a few things along the way just to
> squeeze it on.
>
> The fact it doesnt really work with 10.4 (it is flaky) and it doesnt work
> at all with 10.5 and other people are just having flaky issues with 10.5,
> leads me to think something else might be wrong. I would triple check my
> configs and make sure im running the latest known to work version of the
> firmware.
>
> I have also heard of numerous issues with dd-wrt and people have switched
> to openwrt.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Michael George wrote:
>
>> That is actually what I'm leaning towards.  I just hadn't looked into
>> which ones were compatible with 10.5 yet.
>>
>> On Mon, June 16, 2008 7:33 am, Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>> > another solution is to use a USB wireless adapter, Blekin and DLink
>> > both make Mac compatible a/b/g cards
>> >
>> > On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Michael George wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, what I found is that there are a lot of networking problems
>> with
>> >> 10.5.  Most of what I found had to do with extremely poor performance
>> >> and continuously dropped connections.  One post in particular said
>> >> that
>> >> the Airport Extreme devices were no longer playing well with Cicso
>> >> WAPs.
>> >>  Whether the "cisco problem" extends into their Linksys
>> >> acquisitions, I
>> >> do not know.
>> >>
>> >> My router is working fine, and I don't have any plans to change it.
>> >> If
>> >> I had a greater need for the Mini to work I might try OpenWRT, or
>> even
>> >> go back to the Linksys Firmware for the WRT54G...
>> >>
>> >> Given that the 10.4 systems and WinXP were no-effort connections, I
>> am
>> >> inclined to blame Apple and I am hoping that a future update might
>> >> resolve the issue.
>> >>
>> >> Karl Schuttler wrote:
>> >>> It might be worthwhile to see if the problem exists in OpenWRT,
>> >>> another linux firmware for the WRT line. OpenWRT isn't tough,
>> >>> especially if you've done any networking in linux, but it is mostly
>> >>> command line (no web gui out of the box). It may be the easiest
>> >>> migration to make it work, if you find that others aren't running
>> >>> into
>> >>> this issue.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Michael George
>> >>> <george at idealso.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Yes, those bastards.  This is not an isolated dd-wrt issue, it has
>> >>>> been
>> >>>> happening to many people with the Airport Extreme devices under
>> >>>> 10.5.
>> >>>> It was a problem at 10.5.1 (but not under 10.4) and still is now.
>> >>>> They
>> >>>> aren't giving it attention because they made it work with their
>> >>>> WAPs.
>> >>>> If it doesn't work with Ciscos, they don't seem to care.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have connected my iBook (10.4) with no hesitation.  I have
>> >>>> connected
>> >>>> Windows XP with no problem.  The software running in dd-wrt is in
>> >>>> very
>> >>>> wide use and I'm sure if there were problems with it meeting the
>> >>>> standards of 802.11b/g, they would get fixed.  However, Apple
>> >>>> adopted an
>> >>>> unfinished (beta) spec (802.11n) and put it into production
>> >>>> hardware.
>> >>>> Internal to the computer, no less.  When it isn't backwards
>> >>>> compatible
>> >>>> their best answer (not that they gave one) is "spend several
>> >>>> hundred $$
>> >>>> and get one of *our* WAPs".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you think dd-wrt is such junk, then why don't you download the
>> >>>> latest
>> >>>> linksys firmware and install it on your router?  When you do,
>> please
>> >>>> tell me if your problem goes away...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>> >>>>> Those bastards? I blame your crappy Open Source driven router, I
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> the same issue with my WRT54GL w/ DD-WRT is junk too... You get
>> >>>>> what u
>> >>>>> pay for...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Michael George wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Well, no go on either of these.  I can set up an ad-hoc network
>> >>>>>> with my
>> >>>>>> iBook and an original AirPort card (802.11b?), but it keeps
>> >>>>>> getting
>> >>>>>> connection timeouts to the Linksys/dd-wrt WAP.  I am not about
>> >>>>>> to spend
>> >>>>>> $300 for a Apple WAP to connect this thing.  Those bastards make
>> >>>>>> incompatible hard/firmware and expect me to spend more $$ on
>> >>>>>> them?  No
>> >>>>>> way.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sean O'Malley wrote:
>> >>>>>>> It doesnt really seem to be a related issue, but the early 2006
>> >>>>>>> minis
>> >>>>>>> have a firmware update for them. It is called
>> >>>>>>> Apple Mac mini early 2006 SMC Firmware
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> A more related fix would be:
>> >>>>>>> ----
>> >>>>>>> from http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4993837
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Alright, so we know that after updated to 10.5.2 people were
>> >>>>>>> still
>> >>>>>>> having
>> >>>>>>> trouble with Airport. I was one of them, and I figured it out.
>> >>>>>>> Here is
>> >>>>>>> what I did:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 1. Navigate to Library\Preferences\SystemConfiguration
>> >>>>>>> 2. Locate com.apple.airport.preferences.plist
>> >>>>>>> 3. Drag it to trash
>> >>>>>>> 4. Hit the spotlight, type in "Keychain Access"
>> >>>>>>> a) Remove all passwords to every network
>> >>>>>>> *now I don't know if that's necessary, but I did it, and it
>> >>>>>>> worked*
>> >>>>>>> 5. Restart Leopard
>> >>>>>>> 6. Connect to a network and you should be problem free
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> By deleting com.apple.airport.preferences.plist and restarting
>> >>>>>>> your
>> >>>>>>> system, you are allowing Leopard to create the new 10.5.2 file.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> My theory is, is that the two conflicted with each other so it
>> >>>>>>> wasn't
>> >>>>>>> copied properly, and thats why some people had the problem and
>> >>>>>>> some
>> >>>>>>> didn't.
>> >>>>>>> ---
>> >>>>>>> my guess is you just need to axe the password to the airport.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> That at least lets you start the config from scratch. :)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sean
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> -M
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>
>> >> There are 10 kinds of people in this world:
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>>
>>
>> -Michael George
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