[GLLUG] Anyone with experience with Macs and AirPort Extreme?

Michael George george at idealso.com
Mon Jun 16 15:03:04 EDT 2008


Tried turning off the authentication.  Didn't help.

I found a fix, though!  In reading and reading and reading, I saw a
reference to how some people "fixed" the problem by activating and then
deactivating IPv6.  I figured it was worth a try...  and it did!

On Mon, June 16, 2008 2:53 pm, Sean O'Malley wrote:
> My bad. I read what you said incorrectly about the intermittant
> connections. :)
>
> From what I just read it appears it is an authentication/authorization
> issue and there are firmware upgrades from linksys.. dd-wrt probably hasnt
> fixed it yet.
>
> If you turn off auth on the router, it supposedly works.
>
> *shrugs*
>
>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Michael George wrote:
>
>> The GL has more RAM than the current G's do, not less.
>>
>> I haven't had *any* problems at all with 10.4, only with 10.5.
>>
>> On Mon, June 16, 2008 11:43 am, Sean O'Malley wrote:
>> > Im cheap I guess. I would try changing the firmware on the router
>> first.
>> >
>> > Weren't those the routers that had like 1/2 as much ram as the G
>> series
>> > and a few other shortcuts to drop the price?
>> >
>> > I am just thinking if you are trying to squeeze a gui and software on
>> a
>> > smaller space, you might actually drop a few things along the way just
>> to
>> > squeeze it on.
>> >
>> > The fact it doesnt really work with 10.4 (it is flaky) and it doesnt
>> work
>> > at all with 10.5 and other people are just having flaky issues with
>> 10.5,
>> > leads me to think something else might be wrong. I would triple check
>> my
>> > configs and make sure im running the latest known to work version of
>> the
>> > firmware.
>> >
>> > I have also heard of numerous issues with dd-wrt and people have
>> switched
>> > to openwrt.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Michael George wrote:
>> >
>> >> That is actually what I'm leaning towards.  I just hadn't looked into
>> >> which ones were compatible with 10.5 yet.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, June 16, 2008 7:33 am, Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>> >> > another solution is to use a USB wireless adapter, Blekin and DLink
>> >> > both make Mac compatible a/b/g cards
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Michael George wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Well, what I found is that there are a lot of networking problems
>> >> with
>> >> >> 10.5.  Most of what I found had to do with extremely poor
>> performance
>> >> >> and continuously dropped connections.  One post in particular said
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> the Airport Extreme devices were no longer playing well with Cicso
>> >> >> WAPs.
>> >> >>  Whether the "cisco problem" extends into their Linksys
>> >> >> acquisitions, I
>> >> >> do not know.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My router is working fine, and I don't have any plans to change
>> it.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> I had a greater need for the Mini to work I might try OpenWRT, or
>> >> even
>> >> >> go back to the Linksys Firmware for the WRT54G...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Given that the 10.4 systems and WinXP were no-effort connections,
>> I
>> >> am
>> >> >> inclined to blame Apple and I am hoping that a future update might
>> >> >> resolve the issue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Karl Schuttler wrote:
>> >> >>> It might be worthwhile to see if the problem exists in OpenWRT,
>> >> >>> another linux firmware for the WRT line. OpenWRT isn't tough,
>> >> >>> especially if you've done any networking in linux, but it is
>> mostly
>> >> >>> command line (no web gui out of the box). It may be the easiest
>> >> >>> migration to make it work, if you find that others aren't running
>> >> >>> into
>> >> >>> this issue.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Michael George
>> >> >>> <george at idealso.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Yes, those bastards.  This is not an isolated dd-wrt issue, it
>> has
>> >> >>>> been
>> >> >>>> happening to many people with the Airport Extreme devices under
>> >> >>>> 10.5.
>> >> >>>> It was a problem at 10.5.1 (but not under 10.4) and still is
>> now.
>> >> >>>> They
>> >> >>>> aren't giving it attention because they made it work with their
>> >> >>>> WAPs.
>> >> >>>> If it doesn't work with Ciscos, they don't seem to care.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I have connected my iBook (10.4) with no hesitation.  I have
>> >> >>>> connected
>> >> >>>> Windows XP with no problem.  The software running in dd-wrt is
>> in
>> >> >>>> very
>> >> >>>> wide use and I'm sure if there were problems with it meeting the
>> >> >>>> standards of 802.11b/g, they would get fixed.  However, Apple
>> >> >>>> adopted an
>> >> >>>> unfinished (beta) spec (802.11n) and put it into production
>> >> >>>> hardware.
>> >> >>>> Internal to the computer, no less.  When it isn't backwards
>> >> >>>> compatible
>> >> >>>> their best answer (not that they gave one) is "spend several
>> >> >>>> hundred $$
>> >> >>>> and get one of *our* WAPs".
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> If you think dd-wrt is such junk, then why don't you download
>> the
>> >> >>>> latest
>> >> >>>> linksys firmware and install it on your router?  When you do,
>> >> please
>> >> >>>> tell me if your problem goes away...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Those bastards? I blame your crappy Open Source driven router,
>> I
>> >> >>>>> have
>> >> >>>>> the same issue with my WRT54GL w/ DD-WRT is junk too... You get
>> >> >>>>> what u
>> >> >>>>> pay for...
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Michael George wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Well, no go on either of these.  I can set up an ad-hoc
>> network
>> >> >>>>>> with my
>> >> >>>>>> iBook and an original AirPort card (802.11b?), but it keeps
>> >> >>>>>> getting
>> >> >>>>>> connection timeouts to the Linksys/dd-wrt WAP.  I am not about
>> >> >>>>>> to spend
>> >> >>>>>> $300 for a Apple WAP to connect this thing.  Those bastards
>> make
>> >> >>>>>> incompatible hard/firmware and expect me to spend more $$ on
>> >> >>>>>> them?  No
>> >> >>>>>> way.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Sean O'Malley wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> It doesnt really seem to be a related issue, but the early
>> 2006
>> >> >>>>>>> minis
>> >> >>>>>>> have a firmware update for them. It is called
>> >> >>>>>>> Apple Mac mini early 2006 SMC Firmware
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> A more related fix would be:
>> >> >>>>>>> ----
>> >> >>>>>>> from http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4993837
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Alright, so we know that after updated to 10.5.2 people were
>> >> >>>>>>> still
>> >> >>>>>>> having
>> >> >>>>>>> trouble with Airport. I was one of them, and I figured it
>> out.
>> >> >>>>>>> Here is
>> >> >>>>>>> what I did:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> 1. Navigate to Library\Preferences\SystemConfiguration
>> >> >>>>>>> 2. Locate com.apple.airport.preferences.plist
>> >> >>>>>>> 3. Drag it to trash
>> >> >>>>>>> 4. Hit the spotlight, type in "Keychain Access"
>> >> >>>>>>> a) Remove all passwords to every network
>> >> >>>>>>> *now I don't know if that's necessary, but I did it, and it
>> >> >>>>>>> worked*
>> >> >>>>>>> 5. Restart Leopard
>> >> >>>>>>> 6. Connect to a network and you should be problem free
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> By deleting com.apple.airport.preferences.plist and
>> restarting
>> >> >>>>>>> your
>> >> >>>>>>> system, you are allowing Leopard to create the new 10.5.2
>> file.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> My theory is, is that the two conflicted with each other so
>> it
>> >> >>>>>>> wasn't
>> >> >>>>>>> copied properly, and thats why some people had the problem
>> and
>> >> >>>>>>> some
>> >> >>>>>>> didn't.
>> >> >>>>>>> ---
>> >> >>>>>>> my guess is you just need to axe the password to the airport.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> That at least lets you start the config from scratch. :)
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Sean
>> >> >>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>> -M
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> There are 10 kinds of people in this world:
>> >> >>>>>>    Those who can count in binary and those who cannot.
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>> >> >>>> -M
>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >> --
>> >> >> -M
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There are 10 kinds of people in this world:
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>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Michael George
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>>
>> -Michael George
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