[GLLUG] Anyone with experience with Macs and AirPort Extreme?

Sean O'Malley picasso at madflower.com
Mon Jun 16 14:53:32 EDT 2008 

My bad. I read what you said incorrectly about the intermittant
connections. :)

>From what I just read it appears it is an authentication/authorization
issue and there are firmware upgrades from linksys.. dd-wrt probably hasnt
fixed it yet.

If you turn off auth on the router, it supposedly works.

*shrugs*


On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Michael George wrote:

> The GL has more RAM than the current G's do, not less.
>
> I haven't had *any* problems at all with 10.4, only with 10.5.
>
> On Mon, June 16, 2008 11:43 am, Sean O'Malley wrote:
> > Im cheap I guess. I would try changing the firmware on the router first.
> >
> > Weren't those the routers that had like 1/2 as much ram as the G series
> > and a few other shortcuts to drop the price?
> >
> > I am just thinking if you are trying to squeeze a gui and software on a
> > smaller space, you might actually drop a few things along the way just to
> > squeeze it on.
> >
> > The fact it doesnt really work with 10.4 (it is flaky) and it doesnt work
> > at all with 10.5 and other people are just having flaky issues with 10.5,
> > leads me to think something else might be wrong. I would triple check my
> > configs and make sure im running the latest known to work version of the
> > firmware.
> >
> > I have also heard of numerous issues with dd-wrt and people have switched
> > to openwrt.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Michael George wrote:
> >
> >> That is actually what I'm leaning towards.  I just hadn't looked into
> >> which ones were compatible with 10.5 yet.
> >>
> >> On Mon, June 16, 2008 7:33 am, Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
> >> > another solution is to use a USB wireless adapter, Blekin and DLink
> >> > both make Mac compatible a/b/g cards
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Michael George wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Well, what I found is that there are a lot of networking problems
> >> with
> >> >> 10.5.  Most of what I found had to do with extremely poor performance
> >> >> and continuously dropped connections.  One post in particular said
> >> >> that
> >> >> the Airport Extreme devices were no longer playing well with Cicso
> >> >> WAPs.
> >> >>  Whether the "cisco problem" extends into their Linksys
> >> >> acquisitions, I
> >> >> do not know.
> >> >>
> >> >> My router is working fine, and I don't have any plans to change it.
> >> >> If
> >> >> I had a greater need for the Mini to work I might try OpenWRT, or
> >> even
> >> >> go back to the Linksys Firmware for the WRT54G...
> >> >>
> >> >> Given that the 10.4 systems and WinXP were no-effort connections, I
> >> am
> >> >> inclined to blame Apple and I am hoping that a future update might
> >> >> resolve the issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> Karl Schuttler wrote:
> >> >>> It might be worthwhile to see if the problem exists in OpenWRT,
> >> >>> another linux firmware for the WRT line. OpenWRT isn't tough,
> >> >>> especially if you've done any networking in linux, but it is mostly
> >> >>> command line (no web gui out of the box). It may be the easiest
> >> >>> migration to make it work, if you find that others aren't running
> >> >>> into
> >> >>> this issue.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Michael George
> >> >>> <george at idealso.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> Yes, those bastards.  This is not an isolated dd-wrt issue, it has
> >> >>>> been
> >> >>>> happening to many people with the Airport Extreme devices under
> >> >>>> 10.5.
> >> >>>> It was a problem at 10.5.1 (but not under 10.4) and still is now.
> >> >>>> They
> >> >>>> aren't giving it attention because they made it work with their
> >> >>>> WAPs.
> >> >>>> If it doesn't work with Ciscos, they don't seem to care.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I have connected my iBook (10.4) with no hesitation.  I have
> >> >>>> connected
> >> >>>> Windows XP with no problem.  The software running in dd-wrt is in
> >> >>>> very
> >> >>>> wide use and I'm sure if there were problems with it meeting the
> >> >>>> standards of 802.11b/g, they would get fixed.  However, Apple
> >> >>>> adopted an
> >> >>>> unfinished (beta) spec (802.11n) and put it into production
> >> >>>> hardware.
> >> >>>> Internal to the computer, no less.  When it isn't backwards
> >> >>>> compatible
> >> >>>> their best answer (not that they gave one) is "spend several
> >> >>>> hundred $$
> >> >>>> and get one of *our* WAPs".
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If you think dd-wrt is such junk, then why don't you download the
> >> >>>> latest
> >> >>>> linksys firmware and install it on your router?  When you do,
> >> please
> >> >>>> tell me if your problem goes away...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
> >> >>>>> Those bastards? I blame your crappy Open Source driven router, I
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>> the same issue with my WRT54GL w/ DD-WRT is junk too... You get
> >> >>>>> what u
> >> >>>>> pay for...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Michael George wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Well, no go on either of these.  I can set up an ad-hoc network
> >> >>>>>> with my
> >> >>>>>> iBook and an original AirPort card (802.11b?), but it keeps
> >> >>>>>> getting
> >> >>>>>> connection timeouts to the Linksys/dd-wrt WAP.  I am not about
> >> >>>>>> to spend
> >> >>>>>> $300 for a Apple WAP to connect this thing.  Those bastards make
> >> >>>>>> incompatible hard/firmware and expect me to spend more $$ on
> >> >>>>>> them?  No
> >> >>>>>> way.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Sean O'Malley wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> It doesnt really seem to be a related issue, but the early 2006
> >> >>>>>>> minis
> >> >>>>>>> have a firmware update for them. It is called
> >> >>>>>>> Apple Mac mini early 2006 SMC Firmware
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> A more related fix would be:
> >> >>>>>>> ----
> >> >>>>>>> from http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4993837
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Alright, so we know that after updated to 10.5.2 people were
> >> >>>>>>> still
> >> >>>>>>> having
> >> >>>>>>> trouble with Airport. I was one of them, and I figured it out.
> >> >>>>>>> Here is
> >> >>>>>>> what I did:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> 1. Navigate to Library\Preferences\SystemConfiguration
> >> >>>>>>> 2. Locate com.apple.airport.preferences.plist
> >> >>>>>>> 3. Drag it to trash
> >> >>>>>>> 4. Hit the spotlight, type in "Keychain Access"
> >> >>>>>>> a) Remove all passwords to every network
> >> >>>>>>> *now I don't know if that's necessary, but I did it, and it
> >> >>>>>>> worked*
> >> >>>>>>> 5. Restart Leopard
> >> >>>>>>> 6. Connect to a network and you should be problem free
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> By deleting com.apple.airport.preferences.plist and restarting
> >> >>>>>>> your
> >> >>>>>>> system, you are allowing Leopard to create the new 10.5.2 file.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> My theory is, is that the two conflicted with each other so it
> >> >>>>>>> wasn't
> >> >>>>>>> copied properly, and thats why some people had the problem and
> >> >>>>>>> some
> >> >>>>>>> didn't.
> >> >>>>>>> ---
> >> >>>>>>> my guess is you just need to axe the password to the airport.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> That at least lets you start the config from scratch. :)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Sean
> >> >>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>> -M
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> There are 10 kinds of people in this world:
> >> >>>>>>    Those who can count in binary and those who cannot.
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> >> >>>>
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> >> >> --
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> >> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> -Michael George
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