[GLLUG] new guy to Linux, need a few reccomendations

[Jordan Robison]

Bert,

You also might want to try crunchbang. It really is just a stripped down
version Ubuntu. I use it on my netbook and have not seen any really big
issues.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Bert W. Carrier Jr. <bertcarrier at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> Those are some excellent points. I am concerned about power draw as
> well.   This machine is one of about 7 or 8 that I have laying around,
> and it is by noeans my main computer.  It is nice and light, so it
> would be good for dragging back and forth to school.
>
> What is a good alternative to Xorg X11?
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 23:43 -0500, Richard Houser wrote:
> > IceWM is a light-weight window manager as-is (my personal preference
> > for P3 class machine on a ram diet).  Once you get your gui trimmed
> > down to that point, you should turn off all extraneous services to
> > save ram.  Linux can do usability wonders with 32MB of server daemons,
> > but you want to avoid much of that if you are capped at 192MB.
> >
> > You may also want to swap from Xorg X11 to a lighter-weight
> > alternative.  Also, don't even consider trying OpenOffice without a
> > RAM bump.  Chick may have some recommendations for lighter-weight
> > replacement for some of this, as he tends to run some P2/P3 era
> > laptops.  You may just be better off upgrading the ram.  There's a
> > good chance you have a friend somewhere with 256MB of unused P3 era
> > RAM.
> >
> > If you are going to use this much, my personal recommendation is to
> > invest in a newer machine.  Over the course of a few years, you could
> > easily pay for the cost of a new machine in electricity alone,
> > assuming you spec it out appropriately.  My current (big) server
> > started out as a $200 black Friday build a year ago (4GB ram, AMD X2
> > 4000 65 watt, Antec 85%+ efficiency PS), and you can certainly shop
> > used components in trusted circles, too.  After adding a couple cards
> > and a hard disk, that machine pulls about 605-70 watts from the wall,
> > as opposed to near 250watts from my previous one.  That's well over
> > 100Kwh difference a month if you leave it on, and the new hardware is
> > capable of running multiple operating systems concurrently under KVM
> > (replacing more machines).
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Karl Schuttler <rexykik at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Any of the box's would be a good choice for a gui on an older machine
> > > (Fluxbox, Blackbox, Whitebox in particular), but you're talking about
> window
> > > managers (WM) and not about distros here. You could just install
> fluxbox on
> > > top of your base ubuntu/IceWM install (apt-get install fluxbox) and try
> that
> > > out, see if it's any faster.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Bert W. Carrier Jr. <
> bertcarrier at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello folks,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I am new to the group, and I have been using Ubuntu 9.10 for a few
> > >> months now on my main box. I like it quite well, and I rarely boot to
> XP
> > >> at all anymore. I tried Kubuntu, and did'nt care for it as it was slow
> > >> and crashed often.   I also am running Xubuntu on one of my P4
> laptops,
> > >> and it seems ok.
> > >>
> > >> My question is:   I have a P3, 500mhz dinosaur laptop with 192mb RAM,
> > >> and I want to run linux on it for word processing, email, and web
> > >> surfing.   I tried Xubuntu with no success, it's far too slow.  I
> > >> installed the base Ubuntu system from the alternate install CD, and
> > >> installed IceWM, but I didn't care for that.   I don't think I am
> ready
> > >> to build my own version of a GUI.  What is a good, prepackaged distro
> > >> for a slow old beater?
> > >>
> > >> How about Fluxbox, has anyone tried it?    Sorry if I come off like a
> > >> total noob,  but I guess if the shoe fits, right?
> > >>
> > >> Bert
> > >>
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