[GLLUG] So the new Macbook Pro...

[Bryan Laur]

*Old laptops become junk instead of toys.*
The problem with this mentality is that it causes older laptops to
basically become junk. As software gets upgraded, it has a tendency to
require more ram, and as such you can find a huge performance boost by
simply upgrading the ram if the device has hit such a threshold. (Obvious
for most people here.)

   - However, now you have a device where the battery can't be replaced and
   the ram can't be upgraded. When this device hits the 6 years age, it's ram
   capacity is too low and it's battery is shot. It's basically junk. The cost
   required to fix/upgrade it would make it more economical to a person to
   simply buy a new one.
   - Sure, maybe the doctors and the lawyers won't care... but this
   promotes electronic waste. As it currently stands, many electronics get
   handed down, which I think is a good practice.
   - So who wins? The manufactures, they've just made a laptop that
   literally has a life span.
   - Who loses? Those who can't afford or don't wish to pay for new
   products. Those who receive hand-me-downs. Those that get a kick out of
   using old equipment.
   - And those who like to get the best bang for their buck. (Looks like an
   extra 8GB of ram now costs you $200.. which as most of us know, is hugely
   overpriced)


I don't necessarily care that apple's moving in this direction.. but
hopefully they don't lead the industry in this direction.

Addressing a few other things:

   1. I know plenty of professionals and executives. Most of these people
   are money pinchers and like to get use out of their products. While they
   won't scream bloody murder over this, they will notice later that it
   would've be nice if they could use their electronics or give them to their
   children/grandchildren.

   2. You do not void the warranty for upgrading your laptop's ram or HDD,
   etc. Least not of any laptops I've seen (excluding apple products, of
   course) [Mostly use Acer, HP, Dell. None of these company's warranties are
   void when upgrading the ram or HDD]

   3. Everything from apple isn't all bad: They are bringing high
   resolution displays into consumer devices which is exciting to see.


-Bryan





On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Eduardo Cesconetto
<eduardo at cesconetto.com>wrote:

> Upgrading RAM to the same motherboard is a waste of time and effort for
> most people, maybe not for us geeks, dweebs, nerds, etc… Do you believe a
> lawyer, dentist, doctor, engineer o any other professional would spend time
> even thinking of gaining 3.765% speed by replacing RAM?
>
> I have macs but my main computer in the house is a custom built PC
> (running a certain UNIX/BSD fruit flavored OS…), I understand where you are
> coming from… But that is for us(geeks, dweebs, nerds, etc… )
>
> Think about Taylor, if you are not building your PC and you decide to buy
> a brand name one, it'll have a warranty seal on it, so technically, you
> can't upgrade that unless you WANT to void your warranty… I upgraded RAM on
> my TK82C in 1981 from 2K to 16K using a soldering iron and patience,
> nothing stops us from doing the same with the MBP Retina, right? We have
> much better soldering irons nowadays.. :D
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