[GLLUG] So the new Macbook Pro...

Fri Jun 15 14:27:51 EDT 2012

Looks like it costs $200 to replace the MBP battery.
Not all that unreasonable, but still quite a bit more than the $100 claimed.
http://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro/service/battery/

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Bryan Laur <bjlaur at mtu.edu> wrote:

>
> (1)Source for $100 replacement for battery?
>
> (3-4) Did you upgrade them ram on either of those machines?
> If you did, they are sort of out of the scope of discussion.
>
> (5) Thats interesting, because I know multiple people whose apple laptops
> crapped out of them.
> Especially the first/second gen macbook airs.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Eduardo Cesconetto <
> eduardo at cesconetto.com> wrote:
>
>> 1- Batteries on the compares are replaceable for around $100 bucks by a
>> certified tech with free service, try to get an IBM battery(original) for
>> that price… Good luck with that… And one more thing: they last over 1000
>> cycles, not the 200 that a good IBM battery will...
>>
>> 2- I can take the white iMac apart in 15 minutes(the whole thing), if you
>> can't or can't afford the extra tools, it six to be you…
>>
>> 3- I have a 12 year old PowerMac G4 sitting on a basement running as a
>> web server with over 1100 accounts.. how is that not a long life computer?
>>
>
>>
> 4- My oldest daughter's computer is a 5 year old iMac(the white one…) and
>> run EVERYTHING a new Mac can, so it seems you guys are very misinformed…
>>
>> 5- Life cycle of Apple laptops is waaaaayyyyyy longer then any PC laptop
>> BECAUSE they are built better…
>>
>> 6- Apple computers will outlast any PC in the "hand me down" category..
>>
>> 7- Been smoking that crack pipe since 1979, still happy :D
>>
>> 8- My customers want to be productive, and they are soooo glad they smoke
>> from the same pipe… They can actually spend time making $$$ instead of
>> troubleshooting a shitty OS or geeing out.
>>
>> 9 - Good day! I said GOOD DAY!!! (as Fes from That 70's Show)
>>
>> [image: Profile Picture]
>>
>> Miss you guys!
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Marr wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday 13 June 2012 20:34:08 Taylor Burke wrote:
>>
>> Apple is slowly turning the world of computing into a crapshoot. Their new
>>
>> Macbook features a fused display [...]
>>
>>
>> Normally, I would not comment on this, given my limited experience with
>> Apple
>> hardware. But, by complete coincidence, just today I happened to be
>> trying to
>> get at the hard disk drive in an iMac (one of the polycarbonate-encased
>> ones
>> with a 20" LCD and a little webcam built in). It turns out to be a
>> friggin'
>> nightmare and I soon decided that it wasn't worth the effort.
>>
>> For starters, there are 6 screws on the bottom of the monitor (which is
>> where
>> the HDD is ensconsed -- deeply, as it turns out) that have to be removed.
>> No
>> problem, but slightly odd that 2 are Phillips and 4 require a #9 Torx.
>> (Yes, I
>> know why they do that, but it's still annoying.) Then, of the 4 Torx
>> screws, 1
>> is slightly longer than the other 3 so make sure you're paying close
>> attention
>> as you remove them because, unlike my 12-year-old Toshiba Satellite
>> laptop
>> which I recently disassembled, the position for the longer screw is not
>> marked
>> near the hole in any fashion. And the longer screw seats easily in 2 of
>> the 4
>> holes, so just hope that it's not shorting anything out if you happen to
>> pick
>> the wrong 1 of the 2!
>>
>> The next obstacle to the HDD access comes with the plastic surrounding
>> the
>> LCD, which cannot be easily removed because there are 2 hard-to-access
>> interior clips inside at the top (which I only learned about after trying
>> to
>> remove the plastic, encountering resistance, and watching a 7-minute
>> YouTube
>> video that only covered removal of the outer plastic, not even getting
>> anywhere close to the HDD access/removal!). Releasing those clips
>> requires
>> what us mechanically inclined types would call an SST (Special Shop
>> Tool).
>> It's $30 at Apple, but discontinued. YouTube has a video about how to
>> make one
>> from an old credit card, so get out a pot of boiling water, some tongs,
>> and 3
>> old CD jewel cases. (Don't forget the old credit card!  I actually have a
>> couple of those for cracking the cases of things like remote controls and
>> briefly considered making this SST.)
>>
>> However, at that point, before wasting too much (more) time on this
>> endeavor,
>> I figured I should dig a little deeper and found this website showing the
>> involved process just to get access to the HDD:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/iMac-Intel-20-Inch-EMC-2105-and-2118-
>> Hard-Drive-Replacement/1092/1
>>
>> That's an excellent guide, but still... "No, thank you", Apple.  Anyone
>> contemplating an Apple purchase and ever wanting to repair or upgrade
>> should
>> take a good look at all 23 steps involved in that guide. I sure hope
>> that's
>> atypical for Apple, but I think I know better, based on what I've heard
>> over
>> the years and continue to hear, right up to today's thread-starter.
>>
>> On Wednesday 13 June 2012 20:44:24 Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>>
>> We call it innovation for those who want innovation
>>
>>
>> That's what Microsoft called it too. It doesn't make what they do
>> innovative.
>> Or useful. Seeing that nightmare just to get a peek at the HDD made me
>> swear
>> off ever buying any Apple product. I'm glad that this iMac is a loaner
>> and that
>> it never cost me a dime because I'd be rather annoyed (correction, "more
>> annoyed") right now.
>>
>> On Wednesday 13 June 2012 21:22:31 Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>>
>> Upgrading RAM to the same motherboard is a waste of time and effort for
>>
>> most people, maybe not for us geeks, dweebs, nerds, etc… Do you believe a
>>
>> lawyer, dentist, doctor, engineer o any other professional would spend
>>
>> time even thinking of gaining 3.765% speed by replacing RAM?
>>
>>
>> Funny you mention RAM. That's the _ONLY_ thing on this iMac that's easy
>> to
>> upgrade! Not counting the mouse or the keyboard, of course. :^)  There
>> are 2
>> Phillips screws and a couple of pop-out levers to leverage out the RAM.
>> If so
>> few people upgrade the RAM, then why is that the thing that they make so
>> easy
>> to upgrade? Yeah, I know you're talking laptop and I'm talking desktop,
>> but I
>> think the point is still applicable.
>>
>> On Wednesday 13 June 2012 21:22:31 Eduardo Cesconetto wrote:
>>
>> Think about Taylor, if you are not building your PC and you decide to buy
>> a
>>
>> brand name one, it'll have a warranty seal on it, so technically, you
>>
>> can't upgrade that unless you WANT to void your warranty…
>>
>>
>> Huh?!? The last 2 laptops I bought (both Toshiba, but I have no
>> affiliation with
>> them) had easily accessible doors to upgrade the RAM with no
>> warranty-voiding
>> whatsoever.  Just how long have you been smoking the Apple crack-pipe,
>> Eduardo?
>>
>> Still, I'm glad that Apple is out there for some competition. And, of
>> course,
>> people are free to buy what they like. Some people never even think about
>> touching the "innards" -- more power to them if that is what they
>> want/like
>> and can live with and/or are willing to pay Apple to repair/upgrade. But
>> I'm a
>> DIY guy deep in the core and just cannot fathom such unmaintainable and
>> (effectively) non-upgrade-able hardware. Reasonably easy RAM and HDD
>> access is
>> _required_ on even a laptop PC and especially on a desktop PC. And yes,
>> I'm
>> old enough to remember when even Apples were called PCs and I still
>> consider
>> them PCs.
>>
>> Bill
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