[GLLUG] Strange terminal problem
Melson, Paul
PMelson@sequoianet.com
Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:19:03 -0500
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So, if I understand correctly, it doesn't matter what $TERM is set to, =
and it doesn't matter what terminal program you use, you still get an =
off-by-something effect on the display? And rebooting seems to fix it? =
This seems to point to your XFree86 config, specifically the video card =
and/or monitor. Not sure why it would manifest this way, but if it's =
not a terminal emulation issue, it's most likely a display issue.
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PaulM
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Holbrook [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:09 PM
To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem
No difference. Thne problem seems to go away when I reboot, but that =
doesn't answer the cardinal question! :(
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From: Melson, <mailto:PMelson@sequoianet.com> Paul=20
To: Gary Holbrook <mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net> ; =
linux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem
Try changing it to "linux" or "vt100" and see if the problem goes away =
(`declare -x TERM linux`). If it persists, I'd switch to a different =
X11 terminal program - I use rxvt pretty much exclusively, but it =
doesn't support transparencies or any other cool features. Hope that =
helps!
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PaulM
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PS - Beware that setting $TERM to vt100, vt220, ansi, etc. can cause =
problems with sftp and scp down the road.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Holbrook [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:50 PM
To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem
xterm. I'm logged in via ssh right now. Thanks for the quick response!
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From: Melson, Paul <mailto:PMelson@sequoianet.com> =20
To: Gary Holbrook <mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net> ; =
linux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem
If you run `set | grep -i term` (or `setenv | grep -i term` for =
csh/tcsh) inside a terminal window, what type does it indicate what it's =
set to?
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PaulM
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Holbrook [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:43 PM
To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
Subject: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem
The last couple days I've had some wierdness going on with my home =
system. Among other things (I believe these problems are note =
technically related), sometimes when I type in a terminal, the system =
seems to always be a keystroke behind. That is, when I type a word, the =
last letter doesn't show up until I push space.
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Ideas? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. System is RH =
7.2-stock.
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size=3D2>So, if=20
I understand correctly, it doesn't matter what $TERM is set to, and it =
doesn't=20
matter what terminal program you use, you still get an off-by-something =
effect=20
on the display? And rebooting seems to fix it? This seems to =
point to your XFree86 config, specifically the video card and/or=20
monitor. Not sure why it would manifest this way, but if it's not =
a=20
terminal emulation issue, it's most likely a display =
issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D744370820-19122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>PaulM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gary Holbrook=20
[mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 19, =
2002=20
3:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> linux-user@egr.msu.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[GLLUG]=20
Strange terminal problem<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No difference. Thne problem =
seems to go=20
away when I reboot, but that doesn't answer the cardinal question!=20
:(</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3DPMelson@sequoianet.com =
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Paul</A> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net">Gary Holbrook</A> ; <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 19, =
2002 3:00=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] Strange =
terminal=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Try changing it to "linux" or "vt100" and see if the =
problem goes=20
away (`declare -x TERM linux`). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>If it=20
persists, I'd switch to a different X11 terminal program - I use =
rxvt pretty=20
much exclusively, but it doesn't support transparencies or any other =
cool=20
features. Hope that helps!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>PaulM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>PS=20
- Beware that setting $TERM to vt100, vt220, ansi, etc. can cause =
problems=20
with sftp and scp down the road.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gary Holbrook=20
[mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December =
19, 2002=20
2:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> linux-user@egr.msu.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[GLLUG] Strange terminal problem<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>xterm. I'm logged in via =
ssh right=20
now. Thanks for the quick response!</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DPMelson@sequoianet.com=20
href=3D"mailto:PMelson@sequoianet.com">Melson, Paul</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dgholbrook@voyager.net=20
href=3D"mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net">Gary Holbrook</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dlinux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
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href=3D"mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December =
19, 2002=20
2:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] =
Strange=20
terminal problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D514214319-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>If you run `set | grep -i term` (or `setenv | grep -i =
term` for=20
csh/tcsh) inside a terminal window, what type does it indicate =
what it's=20
set to?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D514214319-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D514214319-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>PaulM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gary =
Holbrook=20
[mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
December 19,=20
2002 2:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR><B>S=
ubject:</B>=20
[GLLUG] Strange terminal problem<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The last couple days I've had =
some=20
wierdness going on with my home system. Among other =
things (I=20
believe these problems are note technically related), =
sometimes when I=20
type in a terminal, the system seems to always be a keystroke=20
behind. That is, when I type a word, the last letter =
doesn't=20
show up until I push space.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ideas? Any suggestions =
are greatly=20
appreciated. System is RH=20
=
7.2-stock.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT=
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