[GLLUG] Strange terminal problem

Gary Holbrook gholbrook@voyager.net
Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:26:57 -0500


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I don't think so, as it also does it when I SSH into the system.  =
Doesn't seem like X should affect that.
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  From: Melson, Paul=20
  To: Gary Holbrook ; linux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:19 PM
  Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem


  So, if I understand correctly, it doesn't matter what $TERM is set to, =
and it doesn't matter what terminal program you use, you still get an =
off-by-something effect on the display?  And rebooting seems to fix it?  =
This seems to point to your XFree86 config, specifically the video card =
and/or monitor.  Not sure why it would manifest this way, but if it's =
not a terminal emulation issue, it's most likely a display issue.

  PaulM
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Gary Holbrook [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]
    Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:09 PM
    To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
    Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem


    No difference.  Thne problem seems to go away when I reboot, but =
that doesn't answer the cardinal question! :(
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Melson, Paul=20
      To: Gary Holbrook ; linux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
      Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:00 PM
      Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem


      Try changing it to "linux" or "vt100" and see if the problem goes =
away (`declare -x TERM linux`).  If it persists, I'd switch to a =
different X11 terminal program - I use rxvt pretty much exclusively, but =
it doesn't support transparencies or any other cool features.  Hope that =
helps!

      PaulM

      PS - Beware that setting $TERM to vt100, vt220, ansi, etc. can =
cause problems with sftp and scp down the road.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Gary Holbrook [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]
        Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:50 PM
        To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
        Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem


        xterm.  I'm logged in via ssh right now.  Thanks for the quick =
response!

          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Melson, Paul=20
          To: Gary Holbrook ; linux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
          Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:44 PM
          Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem


          If you run `set | grep -i term` (or `setenv | grep -i term` =
for csh/tcsh) inside a terminal window, what type does it indicate what =
it's set to?

          PaulM
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Gary Holbrook [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]
            Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:43 PM
            To: linux-user@egr.msu.edu
            Subject: [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem


            The last couple days I've had some wierdness going on with =
my home system.  Among other things (I believe these problems are note =
technically related), sometimes when I type in a terminal, the system =
seems to always be a keystroke behind.  That is, when I type a word, the =
last letter doesn't show up until I push space.

            Ideas?  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.  System is =
RH 7.2-stock.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't think so, as it also does it =
when I SSH=20
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that.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DPMelson@sequoianet.com =
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  Paul</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 19, =
2002 3:19=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] Strange =
terminal=20
  problem</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D744370820-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>So,=20
  if I understand correctly, it doesn't matter what $TERM is set to, and =
it=20
  doesn't matter what terminal program you use, you still get an=20
  off-by-something effect on the display?&nbsp; And rebooting seems to =
fix=20
  it?&nbsp; This seems to point&nbsp;to your XFree86 config, =
specifically the=20
  video card and/or monitor.&nbsp; Not sure why it would manifest this =
way, but=20
  if it's not a terminal emulation issue, it's most likely a display=20
  issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D744370820-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D744370820-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>PaulM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gary Holbrook=20
    [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December =
19, 2002=20
    3:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> linux-user@egr.msu.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[GLLUG]=20
    Strange terminal problem<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No difference.&nbsp; Thne problem =
seems to go=20
    away when I reboot, but that doesn't answer the cardinal question!=20
    :(</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3DPMelson@sequoianet.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:PMelson@sequoianet.com">Melson, Paul</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dgholbrook@voyager.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net">Gary Holbrook</A> ; <A=20
      title=3Dlinux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
      href=3D"mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December =
19, 2002=20
      3:00 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] =
Strange terminal=20
      problem</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Try changing it to "linux" or "vt100" and see if the =
problem goes=20
      away (`declare -x TERM linux`).&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
      class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>If it=20
      persists, I'd switch to a different X11 terminal program - I use =
rxvt=20
      pretty much exclusively, but it doesn't support transparencies or =
any=20
      other cool features.&nbsp; Hope that helps!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>PaulM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D467265519-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>PS - Beware that setting $TERM to vt100, vt220, ansi, =
etc. can=20
      cause problems with sftp and scp down the =
road.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gary =
Holbrook=20
        [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
December 19,=20
        2002 2:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
linux-user@egr.msu.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
        [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>xterm.&nbsp; I'm logged in via =
ssh right=20
        now.&nbsp; Thanks for the quick response!</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3DPMelson@sequoianet.com=20
          href=3D"mailto:PMelson@sequoianet.com">Melson, Paul</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dgholbrook@voyager.net =
href=3D"mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net">Gary=20
          Holbrook</A> ; <A title=3Dlinux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
December 19, 2002=20
          2:44 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] =
Strange=20
          terminal problem</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D514214319-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2>If you run `set | grep -i term` (or `setenv | grep -i =
term` for=20
          csh/tcsh) inside a terminal window, what type does it indicate =
what=20
          it's set to?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D514214319-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D514214319-19122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2>PaulM</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
            size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gary =
Holbrook=20
            [mailto:gholbrook@voyager.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
December=20
            19, 2002 2:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:linux-user@egr.msu.edu">linux-user@egr.msu.edu</A><BR><B>S=
ubject:</B>=20
            [GLLUG] Strange terminal problem<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The last couple days I've =
had some=20
            wierdness going on with my home system.&nbsp; Among other =
things (I=20
            believe these problems are note technically related), =
sometimes when=20
            I type in a terminal, the system seems to always be a =
keystroke=20
            behind.&nbsp; That is, when I type a word, the last letter =
doesn't=20
            show up until I push space.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ideas?&nbsp; Any =
suggestions are=20
            greatly appreciated.&nbsp; System is RH=20
          =
7.2-stock.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT=
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