[GLLUG] Building a new system

Jeffrey Utter utterjef at zelda.cl.msu.edu
Thu Jul 24 14:54:51 EDT 2003


it's starting to seem kinda sad to me that one of the biggest
conversations that has taken place on this list in a long while is about
console gameing and MAC vs. PC... 

Before you flame me, note that I didn't say it was a bad thing.  Just
kinda sad...


-Jeffrey Utter

"I'm surprised no one has quoted me in a signature yet,
 I say stupid stuff all the time."  
                                           -  Jeff Utter

             http://www.jeffutter.com


On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jeremy Bowers wrote:

> Keyes, Randall wrote:
> > If you can't laugh at yourself... :)
> > 
> > Still, my wife is a PC gamer who constantly is cursing M$, so if you 
> > folk hear of a viable alternative for playing PC games on another OS, 
> > let us know. :)
> > 
> > I hope to get WINE running on a machine for her this fall, but I've seen 
> > mixed reviews.  She's a heavy RPG'r.
> 
> Seriously... consider a console. I always thought of myself as a 
> computer gamer but lately gaming rigs have gotten *much* more expensive, 
> relatively speaking.
> 
> What do I mean by that? I mean that it used to be you *had* to drop 
> thousands of dollars on a system to satisfy a "computer person" like me. 
> At that point, spend $200 on a graphics card and *bam*, top-of-the-line 
> gaming system. So in a way, only the $200+ graphics card was "gaming" 
> expenditures.
> 
> Now that the processors and all have advanced so far past the apps, 
> that's not as true as it used to be. I have a Duron 800 MHz at home, and 
> *no desire* to upgrade. With a nVidia TNT2 in it, it's a great little 
> system for almost everything I want to do. To replace it now is 
> impossible, because you can't buy that cheap anymore. ;-)
> 
> Thus, to keep up with computer gaming now costs thousands for the latest 
> CPU and graphics and a lot of other stuff, which is now *not* necessary 
> to have a decently usable system. So to a person like me, the true price 
> of computer gaming has skyrocketed in the last few years.
> 
> The only issue is what kind of RPG your wife is into. The big consoles 
> like the PS2 tend to have what I think of as "nose stinging" RPGs... 
> after being led around by the nose for 40 hours, your nose starts 
> stinging. (I enjoyed Skies of Arcadia, for instance, but after being 
> raised on Fallout and other computer RPGs, it never once challenged me 
> with anything like a non-linear dungeon; I guess that would be too scary 
> for their target audience.)
> 
> At the risk of being tarred and feathered, I'm seriously thinking of 
> picking up an XBox sometime in the next few months, for Star Wars: 
> Knights of the Old Republic, and Morrowind, for the upcoming "Game of 
> the Year Edition" (market-speak for "gold" version containing the 
> expansion packs built-in, apparently), both very computery-type RPGs in 
> terms of freedom. (The console crowd are going ga-ga over the freedom in 
> those games; hopefully "they" figure out what "we" computer RPG-ers have 
> known for a while and console reviewers start to bitch about linearity 
> in their RPGs... but I digress.) (Yeah, Microsoft may suck but I have no 
> loyalty and low opinions of Nintendo and Sony as corporations too, so 
> what are you going to do?)
> 
> Something worth thinking about. Also, some games do run OK in Wine, and 
> it can be worth trying them out to see which they are. For instance, 
> Fallout runs flawlessly under wine (except sometimes the videos lock up, 
> so skip them), so that's one less reason to reboot for me. You may not 
> be able to run them all in Linux, but every one you can move over is 
> that much cooler.
> 
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