MSUMAIL: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!

Jim Fick jfick at mphi.org
Thu Apr 26 07:39:30 EDT 2007 

I'd be interested in the homebrew list as well.  Have not homebrewed
before, but willing to learn.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-
> bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Ian M Walker
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:37 AM
> To: Adam McDougall
> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: MSUMAIL: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!
> 
> 1) I've played with qbrew a long time ago, and it might be time to
give it
> another try. I remember it not working that great, but it seems
reasonably
> robust now.
> 2) If you start a homebrew mailing list, I know of some people who
would
> join. Myself, probably my boss, my buddy who I brew with - he's a
> biochemest, so it wouldn't hurt to have him for people to throw yeast
> questions at :)
> 3) We use Pacman on our last stout. It turned out good, but it churned
out
> so much alcohol that it killed itself, so we didn't have any yeast
left
> for
> bottle conditioning! The only complaint I have about it is that the
beer
> wasn't carbonated at all. :)
> 
> Ian!
> 
> walkeri1 at msu.edu
> 
> Adam McDougall writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 07:54:15PM -0400, Ian M Walker wrote:
> >
> >    I had hit reply earlier, not reply to list. But what I had said
was
> that
> >    there IS open-source beer:
> >    http://www.freebeer.org/
> >    Its a Creative Commons lisense on the recipe. And its caffinated!
> Guarana is
> >    one of the ingredients. I have yet to brew it myself, but...
> >    And yeah, a lot of brewers are very generous with their recipes.
One
> of my
> >    favorite beers (http://www.shmaltz.com/lennys.html) flat-out
lists
> their
> >    recipe on their website. Its for their full batch, but if you do
the
> math,
> >    you can scale it down (but some of the hops are hard to find - I
have
> a
> >    batch in the basement right now that's based on it).
> >    But yeah, you can find a lot of recipes that are close, if not
pretty
> >    precise, but even if you find the one that's used, equipment and
> water
> >    effect the beer, not to mention the fact that most of us don't
have a
> setup
> >    quite large enough for brewery-size batches; a sparge volume of
1389
> gal,
> >    and a dry hop of 66lbs... not exactly small.
> >    Speaking of open-source and beer, it kind of bums me out that I
can't
> find a
> >    decent beer recipe manager that's open source. I have Beer
Alchemy
> >    (http://www.kentplacesoftware.com/products/BeerAlchemy.html) for
my
> Mac, and
> >    there's BeerSmith (http://www.beersmith.com/), but... At least
> BeerSmith
> >    runs well (enough) in Wine, but you still need to buy a liscense.
> >    Ian!
> >    walkeri1 at msu.edu
> >
> > I'm glad this was brought up.  I've tried qbrew and it seems decent.
> > Try it out.  http://www.usermode.org/code.html
> >
> > Also seeing as how people that brew are suddenly exposing
themselves,
> > I decided I should make a mailing list for the topic so interested
> persons
> > can join and collaborate.  I brew myself and have a few friends that
do,
> > and I have 4 packages of rogue pacman yeast in the fridge waiting
for an
> > opportune moment.  I know of 2 MSU faculty that brew in some form as
> well.
> > I will probably setup homebrew at twistoffornot.com with mailman.
> >
> > My friends and I also have a wiki setup at
> http://www.attemptedzymurgy.com/.
> > I'm partway through documenting my brewing process and equipment,
> haven't
> > worked on it in a while but the beer(s) of interest section is up to
> date.
> > We do a number of beer kits from things beer plus some recipes from
> elsewhere.
> >
> >    Clay Dowling writes:
> >   > It's the rare beer that isn't open source.  Brewers tend to be
> pretty
> >   > generous about sharing information.  If Fred Seers of
Frankenmuth
> Brewery
> >   > shared his Frankenmuth Dark recipe (which he did, I have it), I
> think it's
> >   > safe to assume most will.  Copying his process and making an
> identical beer
> >   > would be next to impossible.  His former assistant is head
brewer
> there now
> >   > and the beer is different.  Still good, but definitely a
different
> beer.
> >   > Clay Adam McDougall wrote:
> >   >> Only if your beer is Open Source! ps. I would drink the Goat
> Scrotum  (go
> >   >> ahead and try to take THAT out of context) On Wed, Apr 25, 2007
at
> >   >> 02:20:16PM -0400, Lachniet, Mark wrote: If you guys wanna get
> REALLY nutz,
> >   >> I'll brew up a few 5gal kegs of GLLUG beer
> >   >> in my basement..  Even the acronym is reminiscent of swilling
down
> beer.
> >   >> (Gllug
> >   >>   gllug gllug, burph, ahhh)        Lemme see, Penguin Porter?
> Linux
> >   >> Lager?   I make a mean "Goat Scrotum Ale"
> >   >>   but somehow I don't think that will sell well.  :)
> >   >>      Mark Lachniet
> >   >>   Technical Director, Security Group
> >   >>   Analysts International
> >   >>   (517) 336-1004 (voice)
> >   >>   (517) 336-1160 (fax)
> >   >>   mailto: mlachniet at analysts.com
> >   >>
> >   >>
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> ------
> >   >> ------
> >   >>   From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu on behalf of Clay
Dowling
> >   >>   Sent: Wed 4/25/2007 2:22 PM
> >   >>   To: Chick Tower
> >   >>   Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
> >   >>   Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!
> >   >>       Chick is a genius!
> >   >>     I'll volunteer to do the same for the beer, while providing
> tech
> >   >> support.
> >   >>     Clay
> >   >>     Chick Tower wrote:
> >   >> > I have the solution to a couple of problems, and it's simple.
We
> serve
> >   >> > Woodchuck Draft Cider on-tap (not bottles!) during the whole
of
> >   >> Penguicon.
> >   >>   >
> >   >>   > A) People not old enough to drink are banned by state law.
> ("Sorry,
> >   >>   > it's not OUR decision that you can't come in, it's the
> state's.")
> >   >>   >
> >   >> > B) I'll be in the computer lounge twenty-four hours a day, so
the
> need
> >   >>   > for staffing is cut in half.
> >   >>   >
> >   >>   > However, let that tap run dry and there'll be hell to pay.
> >   >>   >
> >   >>                                     Chick
> >   >>   >
> >   >>   >
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