MSUMAIL: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!
Jeff Lawton
jeff at idealso.com
Thu Apr 26 08:04:00 EDT 2007
Clay,
Sounds like you might have a panel for next year. Beer making or tasting
anyway.
Jeff Lawton
Ideal Solution, LLC
517-485-2650 ext 220
jeff at idealso.com
http://www.idealso.com
Jim Fick wrote:
> I'd be interested in the homebrew list as well. Have not homebrewed
> before, but willing to learn.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-
>> bounces at egr.msu.edu] On Behalf Of Ian M Walker
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:37 AM
>> To: Adam McDougall
>> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
>> Subject: Re: MSUMAIL: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!
>>
>> 1) I've played with qbrew a long time ago, and it might be time to
>>
> give it
>
>> another try. I remember it not working that great, but it seems
>>
> reasonably
>
>> robust now.
>> 2) If you start a homebrew mailing list, I know of some people who
>>
> would
>
>> join. Myself, probably my boss, my buddy who I brew with - he's a
>> biochemest, so it wouldn't hurt to have him for people to throw yeast
>> questions at :)
>> 3) We use Pacman on our last stout. It turned out good, but it churned
>>
> out
>
>> so much alcohol that it killed itself, so we didn't have any yeast
>>
> left
>
>> for
>> bottle conditioning! The only complaint I have about it is that the
>>
> beer
>
>> wasn't carbonated at all. :)
>>
>> Ian!
>>
>> walkeri1 at msu.edu
>>
>> Adam McDougall writes:
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 07:54:15PM -0400, Ian M Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> I had hit reply earlier, not reply to list. But what I had said
>>>
> was
>
>> that
>>
>>> there IS open-source beer:
>>> http://www.freebeer.org/
>>> Its a Creative Commons lisense on the recipe. And its caffinated!
>>>
>> Guarana is
>>
>>> one of the ingredients. I have yet to brew it myself, but...
>>> And yeah, a lot of brewers are very generous with their recipes.
>>>
> One
>
>> of my
>>
>>> favorite beers (http://www.shmaltz.com/lennys.html) flat-out
>>>
> lists
>
>> their
>>
>>> recipe on their website. Its for their full batch, but if you do
>>>
> the
>
>> math,
>>
>>> you can scale it down (but some of the hops are hard to find - I
>>>
> have
>
>> a
>>
>>> batch in the basement right now that's based on it).
>>> But yeah, you can find a lot of recipes that are close, if not
>>>
> pretty
>
>>> precise, but even if you find the one that's used, equipment and
>>>
>> water
>>
>>> effect the beer, not to mention the fact that most of us don't
>>>
> have a
>
>> setup
>>
>>> quite large enough for brewery-size batches; a sparge volume of
>>>
> 1389
>
>> gal,
>>
>>> and a dry hop of 66lbs... not exactly small.
>>> Speaking of open-source and beer, it kind of bums me out that I
>>>
> can't
>
>> find a
>>
>>> decent beer recipe manager that's open source. I have Beer
>>>
> Alchemy
>
>>> (http://www.kentplacesoftware.com/products/BeerAlchemy.html) for
>>>
> my
>
>> Mac, and
>>
>>> there's BeerSmith (http://www.beersmith.com/), but... At least
>>>
>> BeerSmith
>>
>>> runs well (enough) in Wine, but you still need to buy a liscense.
>>> Ian!
>>> walkeri1 at msu.edu
>>>
>>> I'm glad this was brought up. I've tried qbrew and it seems decent.
>>> Try it out. http://www.usermode.org/code.html
>>>
>>> Also seeing as how people that brew are suddenly exposing
>>>
> themselves,
>
>>> I decided I should make a mailing list for the topic so interested
>>>
>> persons
>>
>>> can join and collaborate. I brew myself and have a few friends that
>>>
> do,
>
>>> and I have 4 packages of rogue pacman yeast in the fridge waiting
>>>
> for an
>
>>> opportune moment. I know of 2 MSU faculty that brew in some form as
>>>
>> well.
>>
>>> I will probably setup homebrew at twistoffornot.com with mailman.
>>>
>>> My friends and I also have a wiki setup at
>>>
>> http://www.attemptedzymurgy.com/.
>>
>>> I'm partway through documenting my brewing process and equipment,
>>>
>> haven't
>>
>>> worked on it in a while but the beer(s) of interest section is up to
>>>
>> date.
>>
>>> We do a number of beer kits from things beer plus some recipes from
>>>
>> elsewhere.
>>
>>> Clay Dowling writes:
>>> > It's the rare beer that isn't open source. Brewers tend to be
>>>
>> pretty
>>
>>> > generous about sharing information. If Fred Seers of
>>>
> Frankenmuth
>
>> Brewery
>>
>>> > shared his Frankenmuth Dark recipe (which he did, I have it), I
>>>
>> think it's
>>
>>> > safe to assume most will. Copying his process and making an
>>>
>> identical beer
>>
>>> > would be next to impossible. His former assistant is head
>>>
> brewer
>
>> there now
>>
>>> > and the beer is different. Still good, but definitely a
>>>
> different
>
>> beer.
>>
>>> > Clay Adam McDougall wrote:
>>> >> Only if your beer is Open Source! ps. I would drink the Goat
>>>
>> Scrotum (go
>>
>>> >> ahead and try to take THAT out of context) On Wed, Apr 25, 2007
>>>
> at
>
>>> >> 02:20:16PM -0400, Lachniet, Mark wrote: If you guys wanna get
>>>
>> REALLY nutz,
>>
>>> >> I'll brew up a few 5gal kegs of GLLUG beer
>>> >> in my basement.. Even the acronym is reminiscent of swilling
>>>
> down
>
>> beer.
>>
>>> >> (Gllug
>>> >> gllug gllug, burph, ahhh) Lemme see, Penguin Porter?
>>>
>> Linux
>>
>>> >> Lager? I make a mean "Goat Scrotum Ale"
>>> >> but somehow I don't think that will sell well. :)
>>> >> Mark Lachniet
>>> >> Technical Director, Security Group
>>> >> Analysts International
>>> >> (517) 336-1004 (voice)
>>> >> (517) 336-1160 (fax)
>>> >> mailto: mlachniet at analysts.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> ------
>>
>>> >> ------
>>> >> From: linux-user-bounces at egr.msu.edu on behalf of Clay
>>>
> Dowling
>
>>> >> Sent: Wed 4/25/2007 2:22 PM
>>> >> To: Chick Tower
>>> >> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
>>> >> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] Eureka!
>>> >> Chick is a genius!
>>> >> I'll volunteer to do the same for the beer, while providing
>>>
>> tech
>>
>>> >> support.
>>> >> Clay
>>> >> Chick Tower wrote:
>>> >> > I have the solution to a couple of problems, and it's simple.
>>>
> We
>
>> serve
>>
>>> >> > Woodchuck Draft Cider on-tap (not bottles!) during the whole
>>>
> of
>
>>> >> Penguicon.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > A) People not old enough to drink are banned by state law.
>>>
>> ("Sorry,
>>
>>> >> > it's not OUR decision that you can't come in, it's the
>>>
>> state's.")
>>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > B) I'll be in the computer lounge twenty-four hours a day, so
>>>
> the
>
>> need
>>
>>> >> > for staffing is cut in half.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > However, let that tap run dry and there'll be hell to pay.
>>> >> >
>>> >> Chick
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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