[GLLUG] need some advice

Jeremy Neil jrmyzero at gmail.com
Sun Nov 13 13:11:44 EST 2011


thanks for all the info :]

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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:53:25 -0500
> From: Jeremy Neil <jrmyzero at gmail.com>
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> so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know what
> this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's so
> I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered
> would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough
> console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the console.
> However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so
> bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since
> the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ .
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:25:55 -0500
> From: Charles Ulrich <charles at bityard.net>
> To: Jeremy Neil <jrmyzero at gmail.com>
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> If Liquid Web offered you the job, they would be the best ones to ask
> what you need to brush up on. But since they're a web hosting
> provider, you'll want to learn all you can about web servers (Apache,
> mostly), DNS, and email since those are the things you'll likely be
> troubleshooting the most. CentOS is a very popular Linux distribution
> in web hosting, so that would be a good one to start with.
>
> Charles
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Jeremy Neil <jrmyzero at gmail.com> wrote:
> > so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know
> what
> > this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's
> so
> > I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered
> > would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough
> > console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the
> console.
> > However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so
> > bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since
> > the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ .
> >
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:02:08 -0600
> From: Chick Tower <c.e.tower at gmail.com>
> To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice
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> Ubuntu doesn't use RPM packages, so that (and any other Debian
> derivative) won't help you out, Jeremy.  CentOS is a Red Hat clone, and
> it's free, so that would work.  So would Mandriva, Mageia, and OpenSuSE,
> and I believe PCLinuxOS is RPM-based, too.
>
> As for instruction, you should be able to find tutorials on RPM in any
> search engine.  Here's one for a start:
>
> http://search.yippy.com/search?query=linux%20RPM%20tutorial
>
>                                Chick
>
> On 11/12/2011 12:53 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote:
> > so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know
> what
> > this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's
> so
> > I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be offered
> > would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough
> > console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the
> console.
> > However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so
> > bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys since
> > the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ .
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:05:37 -0500
> From: Clay Dowling <clay at lazarusid.com>
> To: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice
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> On 11/12/11 1:53 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote:
> > so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know
> > what this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm
> > distro's so I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job
> > I'd be offered would be a system's admin essentially, even though I
> > don't know enough console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new
> > with using the console. However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn
> > what I need to know, so bascially any pointers could help as well.
> > Thought I'd ask you guys since the local ubuntu irc channel guys have
> > pretty much rejected me :\ .
> Well, I'd expect them to thumb their nose at you if you're asking about
> handling rpms, because Ubuntu users don't have them.
>
> I don't know what Liquid Web uses, but Charles is right, starting with
> CentOS is the way to go.  CentOS does have a GUI, but you should avoid
> it, because when you're administering servers you won't be using one.
> Also, as several of us have learned, the GUI will often burn you.
>
> If you don't have it, pick up Aeileen Frisch's excellent Essential Unix
> Administration.  If you don't have time to do anything else, learn how
> to use vi proficiently.  It's the most useful tool on the box, and
> you'll spend a large part of your day using it.
>
> You should also start learning scripting as soon as possible.  Start
> with shell scripting (bash is the best starting point), but move on to
> Python pretty quickly.  It's really good for scripting more complex things.
>
> Clay
>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:43:06 -0500
> From: Richard Houser <rick at divinesymphony.net>
> To: c.e.tower at gmail.com
> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu
> Subject: Re: [GLLUG] need some advice
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> I would suggest starting with Fedora.  It's more up to date and is the
> upstream source RHEL and Centos come from.  My theory is that more of the
> hardware will just work, and you can spend more of your time learning the
> applications themselves.
> On Nov 12, 2011 3:02 PM, "Chick Tower" <c.e.tower at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ubuntu doesn't use RPM packages, so that (and any other Debian
> derivative)
> > won't help you out, Jeremy.  CentOS is a Red Hat clone, and it's free, so
> > that would work.  So would Mandriva, Mageia, and OpenSuSE, and I believe
> > PCLinuxOS is RPM-based, too.
> >
> > As for instruction, you should be able to find tutorials on RPM in any
> > search engine.  Here's one for a start:
> >
> > http://search.yippy.com/**search?query=linux%20RPM%**20tutorial<
> http://search.yippy.com/search?query=linux%20RPM%20tutorial>
> >
> >                               Chick
> >
> > On 11/12/2011 12:53 PM, Jeremy Neil wrote:
> >
> >> so yeah, ive gotten a chance to work at liquid web (I hope you'd know
> what
> >> this business was :| ). But, I have little experience with rpm distro's
> so
> >> I'd like to know which distro I should start with. The job I'd be
> offered
> >> would be a system's admin essentially, even though I don't know enough
> >> console commands and stuff, and I'm still kinda new with using the
> >> console.
> >> However I'm willing to try my hardest to learn what I need to know, so
> >> bascially any pointers could help as well. Thought I'd ask you guys
> since
> >> the local ubuntu irc channel guys have pretty much rejected me :\ .
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:57:24 -0500
> From: STeve Andre' <andres at msu.edu>
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> On 11/12/11 14:25, Charles Ulrich wrote:
> > If Liquid Web offered you the job, they would be the best ones to ask
> > what you need to brush up on. But since they're a web hosting
> > provider, you'll want to learn all you can about web servers (Apache,
> > mostly), DNS, and email since those are the things you'll likely be
> > troubleshooting the most. CentOS is a very popular Linux distribution
> > in web hosting, so that would be a good one to start with.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> Charles is quite right.  The distro(s) they use would be the
> best *to start with*.  Expanding your knowledge of the other
> major distros (and some oddball ones, just to see what they
> do) later is a good thing, too.
>
> I'd go to their web site and see if you can find what they use.
>
> --STeve Andre'
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